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    Transmission Final Drives

    My '00 BE L is starting to show symptoms of needing a new transmission (after 277k and much abuse) I bought a 26k transmission from a wrecked '03 wagon, does anyone know if the final drive is the same?

    In a related question, how do I tell what final drive is on a jdm transmission, I bought one of those ej25de auto tranny combos off of ebay for a 1997 outback limited and am considering a swap soon.

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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    There wasn't an Outback in '97. There was a Lancaster though. The final drive for that is 4.444
    Don't know the answer for the first question though.
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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    Quote Originally Posted by YamazakiSubaru
    There wasn't an Outback in '97. There was a Lancaster though. The final drive for that is 4.444
    Don't know the answer for the first question though.

    The engine and transmission said that they would work in Legacys, Foresters, and Outbacks here in the US 96-98 models, but it did not say what it came out of. The '97 Outback is a USDM car that I am considering buying for this engine and tranny.

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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    what is the final drive of a 98 lgt bd auto, and will a 95 2.2 auto work?

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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    98 BD GT Auto has 4.44 FD, and a 95 2.2 auto has 4.11 FD
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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    so if i change my transmission and differential will it work?

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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    ^ physically yes, car will probably feel a little more sluggish because of the gearing change. though i don't know if the gears 1-4 are the same between the 2 either so there might be minimal difference at all.
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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    Quote Originally Posted by hawk61760
    Quote Originally Posted by YamazakiSubaru
    There wasn't an Outback in '97. There was a Lancaster though. The final drive for that is 4.444
    Don't know the answer for the first question though.
    The '97 Outback is a USDM car that I am considering buying for this engine and tranny.

    I was thinking the same thing. Someone should tell my 97 Outback, that it's not an Outback then.
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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    YamazakiSubaru's talking about JDM, since the OP worded "ej25de auto tranny combos off of ebay for a 1997 outback limited" in a way that could imply a couple things (a JDM ej25DE for/from a JDM 97 Outback limited? or JDM motor to be put in a USDM 97 Outback?).

    However, OP cleared that up in post 3.
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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    Yes, I was talking about the J-spec vehicles since:


    Quote Originally Posted by hawk61760
    My '00 BE L is starting to show symptoms of needing a new transmission (after 277k and much abuse) I bought a 26k transmission from a wrecked '03 wagon, does anyone know if the final drive is the same?

    In a related question, how do I tell what final drive is on a jdm transmission, I bought one of those ej25de auto tranny combos off of ebay for a 1997 outback limited and am considering a swap soon.
    Current lineup(click on links):
    His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
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    His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
    Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan

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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    whats the final drive in a 97' Lgt 5spd.Need a new trans asap

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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    Quote Originally Posted by bmwpride
    whats the final drive in a 97' Lgt 5spd.Need a new trans asap
    4.11fd
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericem
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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    Here's the chart for trans/final drives.
    http://spda-online.ca/modules/tinyconte ... tc_28.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookem
    Here's the chart for trans/final drives.
    http://spda-online.ca/modules/tinyconte ... tc_28.html
    Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to decipher the last four digits/characters in USDM, JDM & AUDM manual transmission codes??

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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    Quote Originally Posted by superu
    Quote Originally Posted by Bookem
    Here's the chart for trans/final drives.
    http://spda-online.ca/modules/tinyconte ... tc_28.html
    Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to decipher the last four digits/characters in USDM, JDM & AUDM manual transmission codes??

    bump

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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    I have the Japanese ones. If I don't post it within a couple days, bump this thread again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YamazakiSubaru
    I have the Japanese ones. If I don't post it within a couple days, bump this thread again.
    bump :smt002

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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    Okay, here's just the 2nd gen info just so I'm keeping my word. I'll put out 1st and 3rd generations later.

    For the 2nd gen (BD/BG):

    example code = TY752VBCAA
    Breakdown:
    T = Transmission symbol
    (T - Transmission)

    Y = Transmission associated classification
    (A - 2WD AT)
    (M - 2WD MT)
    (Y - 4WD AT)
    (Z - 4WD AT)

    75 = Transmission type series classification
    (75 - MT [75mm])
    (10 - AT [108mm])

    2 = Car body series
    (2 - Legacy series)

    V = Standard transmission spec classification
    (A - 2WD AT [TA102])
    (R - 2WD MT [TM752])
    (V - ViS-C center diff 4WD [TY752])
    (Y - VTD MP-T center diff 4WD 4AT [TZ102])
    (Z - MP-T center diff 4WD 4AT [TZ102])
    (X - ViS-C center diff 4WD D/R [TY752])

    B = Correlating engine classification
    (B - 2.0L DOHC MPi turbo)
    (D - 2.0L DOHC MPi NA)
    (S - 2.0L SOHC MPi NA)
    (W - 1.8L SOHC MPi NA)
    (1 - 2.5L DOHC MPi NA)

    C = Yearly improvment/design change classification
    (Starts with 'A' and subsequently 'B', 'C', etc.)

    A = Shows change in specification in transmission body
    ('A', 'B', 'C', etc.)

    A = Doesn't change based on vehicle engine or body



    Now, some of this changes for different generations (like the transmission series) and I've figured out that it SEEMS that these are universal within generations (i.e. - the codes here apply to all BD/BGs worldwide), but I could be wrong since I have VERY limited access to info outside Japan.
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    Re: Transmission Final Drives

    Quote Originally Posted by YamazakiSubaru
    Okay, here's just the 2nd gen info just so I'm keeping my word. I'll put out 1st and 3rd generations later.

    For the 2nd gen (BD/BG):
    B = Correlating engine classification
    (B - 2.0L DOHC MPi turbo)
    (D - 2.0L DOHC MPi NA)
    (S - 2.0L SOHC MPi NA)
    (W - 1.8L SOHC MPi NA)
    (1 - 2.5L DOHC MPi NA)

    C = Yearly improvment/design change classification
    (Starts with 'A' and subsequently 'B', 'C', etc.)

    A = Shows change in specification in transmission body
    ('A', 'B', 'C', etc.)

    A = Doesn't change based on vehicle engine or body

    Now, some of this changes for different generations (like the transmission series) and I've figured out that it SEEMS that these are universal within generations (i.e. - the codes here apply to all BD/BGs worldwide), but I could be wrong since I have VERY limited access to info outside Japan.
    COOL, this is the FIRST I've seen describing the last 4 letters. While I appreciate this may not hold for USDM, it IS a place to start!!
    thanks man!!

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