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    turbo build info

    so i just found a complete Ej20 with all accessories including turbo TD04 and 5 speed transmission. with a 30 days warranty with ECU and i believe the intercooler, shipped for 4Gs. has 72K on it

    ive been reading up on doing the swaps, and this should be all plug and play into my 01 leggy for the most part.. correct?

    will i also need the rear diff?

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    Re: wrx swap

    or i could go after a STi engine from an 05 with low miles, missing the turbo. intercooler, tranny etc..

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    Re: wrx swap

    and should i get the cross memeber too orr....?

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    Re: wrx swap

    Is your car a 5mt or 4eat? If auto then obviously clutch pedal and lines, if it's a 5mt I'd leave it in there so you wouldn't have to change the rear diff. Wiring is a little bit more than plug and play unless you have someone like East Coast Swappers do it for you. I'd pass on the crossmember, just notch it the then reinforce with clearance for the uppipe.

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    Re: wrx swap

    1. That is a lot of money for an ej20
    2. You need whatever rear end matches the tranny
    3. sti is completely up to you depending on price comparo. But figure about $1000 for a sti turbo and intercooler
    4. You need a turbo cross member or will need to notch yours for the exhaust

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    Re: wrx swap

    WRX swaps are going up in price as JDM stuff is not as accessible, and less lower mileage complete (turbo, tmic, harness and ecm) 02-06 wrx's that aren't blown up or already stripped. But if his car is still running mind as well wait to find a better deal, I'm sure there are some to be found, just not the $2k like they were three years ago.

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    Re: wrx swap

    ej205s are a dime a dozen now. for $4000 you could easily buy an entire car and pull the motor and anything you want then sell the rest

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    Re: wrx swap

    oh and I forgot to mention this is far from plug and play. you will need the wiring harness that matches the engine not just the ecu. Then you will either need to merge the wiring yourself if your good with that kind of thing (nightmare). Or have it done, look into iwire, they are very good and do it for about $600, which is cheap compared to others

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    Re: wrx swap

    For 1k more you can get a jdm front clip off rs25...engine trans writing harness etc

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    Re: wrx swap

    If you're serious about a swap you should buy a whole car to pull parts from other wise you'll find yourself being nickle and dimed on stuff you didn't think to buy. A whole car can be had for around what that motor is going for, so I'd stay clear of it.

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    Re: wrx swap

    think a WRX or STi motor..? and are there huge differences?

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    Re: wrx swap

    If your pocket is deep then I say go STI.

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    Re: wrx swap

    can't you do more with a wrx engine? i heard more mods or something of that sort

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    Re: wrx swap

    everything STi is mad expensive.. so i have the money now.. but the questions is, will i have it when it breaks down the road lol. i think a WRX set up would be just as fun in my leggy.

    i was considering that set for 4gs i mentioned earlier, and going through the motor, cams, new turbo, intercooler etc.

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    Re: wrx swap

    but i also like the route of buying a crashed car, just so ill have all the parts

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    Re: wrx swap

    I think for the money you can't go wrong with the WRX swap. Find a wrecked car so you have everything you need right there and you can sell off anything you don't use to re-coup some of the investment.

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    Re: wrx swap

    Think about all the other parts you can use on a parts car too! Brakes, scoop, tranny, springs/struts, interior..........
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    Re: wrx swap

    ^ or part it out and make a good chunk (if not all) of your money back.

    I wish I had a whole parts car for my swap, but I just couldnt pass up the deal I got on mine

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    Re: wrx swap

    oh shit! thats bomb, i need a tranny too tho.. can you run a 5spd with an STi motor? or can i only run the 6?.. cuz a tranny, turbo, exhaust and all those others parts is going to be at least another 2500/3000..

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    Re: wrx swap

    How mechanically inclined are you? Or with wiring for that matter? Just curious because I have seen a lot of people with good intentions of swapping but end up selling for a myriad of reasons. Just know what you are getting yourself into. Might be easier to buy one already done. Just my 2 cents.

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    Re: wrx swap

    Quote Originally Posted by jewbaru
    oh shit! thats bomb, i need a tranny too tho.. can you run a 5spd with an STi motor? or can i only run the 6?.. cuz a tranny, turbo, exhaust and all those others parts is going to be at least another 2500/3000..

    Tranny alone with be over $3000

    Luckily any subaru engine / tranny combo work together. The sti 6 speed is just a lot stronger and geared lower

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    Re: wrx swap

    Quote Originally Posted by jewbaru
    this should be all plug and play into my 01 leggy for the most part.. correct?
    Oh. WOW. You need to hold onto your cash for about a year and do some real research, not just hit the post thread button... Read over a few MR1 threads - several times. Read the swaps faq, the stickied threads and the successful swaps. Call up shops in your area or time zone that have done this work and ask them what would be involved and the cost.

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    Re: wrx swap

    ok.. so i dont think this swap is going to happen after listening to huffer and doing research all last night, all these WRX parts are a little too expensive and seems like fitment for me for this swap wont happen over a long weekend lol

    so in the time being, ive found two different 2000 legacys

    ones a GT 5spd fully loaded with 183K, rust over each rear wheel, needs tires, guy wants 3900

    other is an L, 5spd, CLEAAANN inside, 138K, rust over each rear wheel, new tires, guy wants 2200

    i figure, buy the car cheap, use the left over insurance money to rebuild the motor with turbo pistons, new crank etc. and then sell one car for a turbo set up, and sell the other for body/paint work

    my question is.. go with the high milage GT, get the leather and everything.. orr save a little extra money, sacrafice the sunroof and leather for the cheaper car, and spend the other 4k i have left on the rebuild and turbo set up...

    ORRRRRRR, i found a turbo WRX, with brand new paint and tires, with 180+ for milage, and the guy said he'd do it for 5gs

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    Re: wrx swap

    too many options and i need advice lmao, i REALLY like the GT with the leather and sun roof... but if i buy the other one for 2200 ill have plenty of money left over to mod the shit out of it, and the L is dark blue, so when i paint it world rally blue i wont have to worry about jams or a value shade

    but idk if the GT would be a better base for a turbo set up.. and IT HAS A SUNROOF lol

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    Re: wrx swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoozle
    How mechanically inclined are you? Or with wiring for that matter? Just curious because I have seen a lot of people with good intentions of swapping but end up selling for a myriad of reasons. Just know what you are getting yourself into. Might be easier to buy one already done. Just my 2 cents.

    when it comes to subaru, im pretty good with a wrench. im just not sure on the fitment issues, im not a good fabricater, and i would have someone do the wiring for me, cuz i cant follow a wiring diagram for the life of me haha, but when i start something, i finish it. but i dont know if ill have the money to afford to finish it lmao

    but if you read my above posts, i think i might just buy a 5spd leggy, and turbo the motor

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    Re: wrx swap

    If you're looking to go power, you get the lightest version of the chassis you want to drive. That means no leather, no sunroof. Sunroof's add 100lbs easy. Leather is heavier than cloth interiors. So if you want a good stock base to mod from, you get the lower trim model.

    Here's what you do. Buy the chassis you want. Then spend some money and buy a front clip from a turbo Subaru. STi, WRX, Legacy, FXT. Choose your flavor.
    Then start working on tracing the wiring for the engine harness for the engine to the corresponding wires on your existing harness (in the car you're driving). When you have that figured out then the hard part is just making sure you have the hardware needed to swap the engine in. Basically, if you have a front clip you can use the engine cross-member from the donor car, along with the entire engine and the exhaust/intake components. The only thing that will be needed after that is to swap ECUs and fab up the exhaust.

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    Re: wrx swap

    Having owned a fair amount of Subaru's both swapped and not. Take some time to think about what you really want. Do you want a track car? Do you want a fun cruiser with power? Do you want power and reliability? Lots of different answers for each of those questions. Even swapping a car correctly is still not as reliable as a car that came from the factory that way. If you want a project though, then I say go for it and enjoy learning the ins and outs of every part of your car. If I could do it all over again, I would buy an Impreza RS and swap it with a full STi drivetrain, good amount of power and enough reliability for me to be able to drive cross country if need be. Or even a Legacy GT with full STi swap. I personally don't like picking a lower model and building it up, Im doing that at the moment and its a far bigger pain in the ass than I had anticipated.

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    Re: wrx swap

    Im confused. Do you currently not have a car?

    Buying a new legacy and turboing a NA engine is an even worse idea then trying to do a wrx swap without knowing what your doing. My 2 cents is buy a wrx or even look for an 05+ GT. Ive seen them in the 6-7k range.

    If you want to swap / turbo a car that did not come that way here is a good way to do it.
    1. Buy either a swap or complete parts car
    2. Do whatever you want to the engine and have it all pretty and on a stand ready to go in the car before you touch your car.
    3. Buy a legacy wiring harness for the same year and model as yours.
    4. Send the swap harness and your legacy clone harness to iwire, ecs, etc.
    5. Have everything ready to go in the car.
    6. Then bust everything out in one weekend..... No downtime

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    Re: wrx swap

    I currently have two leggys. Both running. Both auto. Ones an L. Ones a 35th anniersary

    I NEED a 5 speed cuz I'm going crazy.

    So I'm goin to drive one of the autos while i plan on taking the 5mt motor and sinking a lil money into it so it's turbo ready. New pistons. Crank. Rods. Bearings. Etc

    New clutch. Install. Get it driving. Sell both auto leggys. Take that cash and buy my turbo n intercooler n zaust set up

    No wiring nightmare. No crazy fabrication. Close to "stock" as possible with a built motor and turbo

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