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    96 Short Throw shifter

    I was doing a few google searches and I cannot for the life of me find a short throw shifter. I check kartboy and rallysportdirect.com.

    What's the deal? Maybe my keywords are garbage.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    http://www.customcarscentral.com/bnm451 ... egacy.html

    I have this one that I scored off a junkyard car for pretty cheap. No need to spend that kind of money though. Also Kartboy's owner works at All Wheel Engineering, but I didn't see a web site for some reason.

    I'd check with 4Zero1Motorsports aka Reason on the boards. He can usually get upgrade parts for good deals.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Ill check with him. Whats the difference that there is such a small aftermarket for the oldwr shifters? Linkage?
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Yes, the linkage is different depending on the build date. 96 was the crossover year, from what I gather. Either you have this:

    97+ linkage, compatible with many short shifters


    Or this:

    90-96ish linkage, only aftermarket shifter is the B&M or knockoff


    As you can see, the linkage system is completely reversed from each other.


    Link to said knockoff B&M shifter for older models:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Subaru-Impreza- ... 853wt_1159
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Ahhh yeah the linkage I am getting is from a 95. Anyone had good luck with the knock off?
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    My B&M knockoff is working quit well, after 10k miles. Just make sure to wrap the center bearing in electrical tape when you install so that it doesn't rattle.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    So I don't make another thread. Do the WRX Tranny crossmember bushings work on the Legacy? Looking at kartboys
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Specifically 95-96 Crossmembers (since for some dumb reason TiC claims 97+ is different)
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Quote Originally Posted by Baddog
    (since for some dumb reason TiC claims 97+ is different)
    They claim lots of stuff like that. I think it's because they don't have people with older cars they can test it on. I've been meaning to email them and tell them to add the cobb & kartboy shifter stay bushings to 95+ Legacy as they're listed only for Impreza & newer Legacys.

    I don't believe there's any difference in crossmembers. I know for sure the transmission mount is exactly the same.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Okay for 35 I will take a stab at it and order them.

    I was also going to order the kartboy front and rear shifter bushings.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Quote Originally Posted by Baddog
    Okay for 35 I will take a stab at it and order them.

    I was also going to order the kartboy front and rear shifter bushings.
    Spring for the whole kit, it'll save you money down the road. And +1000 for the shift kit. I have it in mine and absolutely love it now that it's broken it. Prepare for a bit of a pain when you install, but as long as you do it right the first time, you should never need to dive back down in there. There's also the TiC tranny stabilizing kit, which is a nice addition, and you have the option of making your own tranny mount out of window weld. That last suggestion makes an enormous improvement in tranny slop, but it does take a couple of days to cure fully (less if baked, or set out in the hot sun).
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Which whole kit are you referring too?

    I was thinking

    Front and Rear Shifter Bushings
    Crossmember bushings
    Transmission mount
    Short throw
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    I will talk to Reason. Maybe someone will have better knowledge on the subject.

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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    So the rear shifter bushings are showing up for 98+.

    I am getting EXTREMELY confused here.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    If this is what you're talking about: http://www.rallysportdirect.com/COBB-Tu ... er-Bushing

    It'll work on your car.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    So does anyone know about the TiC pivot bushings for the 95 Linkage?
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Non-existent. You need to do a little DIY in order to drill out your 1-piece linkage, and buy 2-piece linkage bushings in order to do what you're wanting to do.

    Also, I did a double check for you. The kit I was talking about is called the "holy shift" kit, and it's a bit overkill for you. You'll want circular shifter bushings, back bushing, and linkage bushings. Otherwise, I can't think of anything else. Crossmember bushings are a nice touch, especially the added benefit of only having to drop the transmission once to do all of this.

    EDIT:

    Here's the DIY on RS25.com; the site is currently down for maintenance, but the link is good.
    http://s1003.photobucket.com/albums/af1 ... AG0536.jpg
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Good thing I won't have to drop the trans. Since it's still out of the car until the swap in 2-3 weeks.

    I got the cobb front and rear stay bushings. Where to get the linkage bushings? I am assuming that is if I did the DIY? On TiC's webiste it shows it for 04+ for linkage bushings.

    I see that it's just as simple as installing a brand new linkage. Which I will do.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Well, hang on.

    The linkage (04-05+) update is nice, but not necessary. You can modify your old linkage with that link for pennies, compared to $50+ for the updated linkage. The 04+ bushings are what you want, check out Turn In Concepts.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    From what I saw on that link (when it worked 5 minutes ago) was that he just replaced the shifter linkage with a new one.

    Excuse my stupidity. I do not know much about that area by any means.

    Also if I upgraded my linkage I would not be able to use the short throw I purchased, right?
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Hmm. It isn't coming up for me.

    Regardless; to my memory what he does is to drill out the 1-piece shift linkage, replace it with a bolt and then throw the new bushings into his old linkage. It's difficult to explain without pictures, but if you'll read through it a few times it'll begin to make more sense.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    I used this link to rebuild the linkage: http://www.ludicrous-speed.com/wiki/ind ... hifter_Fix

    http://www.mcmaster.com has the bushings and I used the MDS filled Nylon ones as they don't wear out as quickly as the ones this guy used. It definitely shored up the slop. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to put the updated, slop free linkage in my car yet.


    edit:

    here:
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    click on plastic flanged sleeve bearings, then hit ctrl+F

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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    To rebuild the linkage it looks like i'd have to buy a tap for it. Not bad. I will see what my discount is on a new linkage.

    I will see if a buddy of mine actually has the tools to do this. And then Garrison you claim the 04 TiC linkage bushings will work? Or are those the pivot bushings?

    So this

    http://turninconcepts.com/product_info. ... ducts_id=2

    Covers all 4 bushings on the linkage?
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Mark from Wisconsin to the rescue.

    Mark has the right link, I edited my post above in order to show such.
    If you read Shane's thread, thaaaat's the one you want to follow.

    To answer your question, I have not done this. I wasted my money and bought a new linkage w/ bushings with it from TiC.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    TiCs website says the linkage update wont work on setups with an external spring. Who knew.

    I will probably just buy a new linkage from the dealer which hopefully has the bushings on it. Which I am assuming it will. At least the 2 that are not "serviceable" and just be done with it.
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    So... Got an email today from the ebay vendor and they are sold out. Anyone know where else to get one?
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    I actually didn't use the existing rivet and replaced everything with grade 8 3/8" (2.5" length, IIRC & yes, an SAE size fit better than metric) bolts on both of them. The rotate nicely and fit quite well. Just make sure that more than 50% of the shaft of the bolt is smooth, it varies by where you get them. It was a lot easier without the use of a drill press like "Shane" used.

    FWIW, the 90-96 linkage uses bolts and not rivets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baddog
    TiCs website says the linkage update wont work on setups with an external spring. Who knew.
    Looking at their website, yes, it looks like there isn't any hole for the spring to go into. You don't really need the spring (I'm without one because of a boneheaded shop that installed the linkage upside down).
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Just bought a new joint. Paid 31 with my discount. Also bought the ralco rz short shifter so we will see
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Do you have the matching shaft to work with that linkage?
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    Re: 96 Short Throw shifter

    Said 93-95 Impreza/Legacy for the short throw. At least the one I bought did

    Or what? Good thing I am having someone help me with this swap.
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