Headers

[subyj]

Ive been wanting a set of UEL headers for my bh outback but know nothing about them.
I hear a lot of people going with borla but are there any others out there?

Thanks

[1996Battlewagon]

Do it: http://www.speedyracer.com/exhaust-part ... -STAINLESS

[subyj]

Looks good and good price but are they unequal length?

[1996Battlewagon]

Yeah. Whenever you read "Borla Knockoffs", these are them.

[subyj]

Oh ok awesome

[subyj]

Have you used these?

I want that sti rumble and i heard the only way to get that is it the headers are unequal length

[1996Battlewagon]

I've owned two sets and currently am running them with a full exhaust. It sounds like a demon who found out his stock in marshmallows just dropped a dozen points right after his broker suggested a heavy investment and he's out for blood.

[subyj]

Lol nice! I think ill take your word for it and buy a set

[1055]

Ive had better luck with the dna motoring ones than the speedy racers... better fitment.

[kyledupreez]

i bought a set off of ebay fitment wasnt great but i bent them... and i think they are cracked now after 20k miles?

going to buy another set but probably spend more then a $100 this time. haha let me know if anyone has one that hasnt cracked. i was going to buy another ebay one and while they make my header back have them double the welds and beef them up or something.

[Blitzen_wishin]

Am I correct in thinking this would fit a BE?

[chuckthefuk]

yes

[Wiscon_Mark]

Pretty much will fit any non turbo EJ series motor that has dual port heads up to around 08. I believe they started changing things before the FB engine conversion. I know the '10 Legacy has an EJ motor but different heads.

[foohfooh]

what about years prior? like a 96 OB? its still a ej25. for some reason when I look at compatability things they all start in 97 (on ebay at least) anybody know the reason for this?

[chuckthefuk]

96 ob 5mt are ej22e and 96 Ob 4eat are ej25d. 97+ ob r all ej25d

[Wiscon_Mark]

what about years prior? like a 96 OB? its still a ej25. for some reason when I look at compatability things they all start in 97 (on ebay at least) anybody know the reason for this?

Because of a lack of information about earlier models, most likely.

90-95 EJ22s are dual port. 96ish-01 EJ22s are single port.
All EJ25s are dual port.

The reason I say 96ish is because 96 was a hybrid year for heads, so some may have dual port heads, some don't. It's a very simple matter of looking under the engine, it's very obvious.

[1055]

Also dont let it be forgotten that there is a difference in exhaust ports between phase 1 and phase 2 2.5's regardless of dohc or sohc.

[Wiscon_Mark]

Also dont let it be forgotten that there is a difference in exhaust ports between phase 1 and phase 2 2.5's regardless of dohc or sohc.

But there's no applicable difference in the context of headers.

[1055]

Yes there is. Especially if you're going the cheaper route. The patterns are slightly difference. Try and put phase 2 headers on a phase 1 engine or vice versa.

Ask me how I know

[chuckthefuk]

How do you know? and do u have pictures? I've run the same headers from P1 to P2 and vise versa. even the Chinese headers don't discriminate between phases.

[Wiscon_Mark]

Yes there is. Especially if you're going the cheaper route. The patterns are slightly difference. Try and put phase 2 headers on a phase 1 engine or vice versa.

Ask me how I know

I think you've just run into the typical situation most of us have: quality control is junk. I don't really believe there's any difference in the exhaust ports themselves, or the J-pipe connection.

And I've put the same headers that were on an EJ25D onto my EJ22E and then they went on an EJ251. All fit fine.

[1055]

Interesting. Back in the day when borla made real borla headers (not the cheap bullshit ones they are trying to pass off now) I purchased a set that didnt fit. They informed me that I had purchased a set designed for the phase 1 engine. It had a shallower depth (didnt clear the steering rack external lines) and the front holes were off about 5/16 of an inch on either side. I bought another p2 set and sure enough the collector was deeper and the bolt holes were different.

I dont have any pictures, this was years ago.

I also ran into this issue about a year ago with both speedy racer and dna motoring uel headers.

Maybe they were all just shitty to begin with

[kiyo1990]

I have a DNA headers set from ebay and love it. Reasonable price, good build, and perfect fit

[covaliov]

i have a dohc 2.5 engine do u think they'll fit?

[1996Battlewagon]

There's a fabricator on USMB who is now making UEL headers for both single and dual port EJs.

http://www.infernofab.com/

http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/top ... available/

Quality looks outstanding. Thought I might drop this in here.

[chuckthefuk]

i have a dohc 2.5 engine do u think they'll fit?

yes

[coreyh29645]

Ive had better luck with the dna motoring ones than the speedy racers... better fitment.

I am thinking of buying a header. I looked at the DNA site and all I see are for imprezas. Am I wrong thinking they are the same?

[Grimmrican]

I just added these headers to my BE today actually. Rest of the exhaust is still stock until next week. Just the headers alone u can hear a very small growl u kinda have to listen for it. But I had these on my BK as well and sounded awesome. I love every minute of it.

[1055]

Ive had better luck with the dna motoring ones than the speedy racers... better fitment.

I am thinking of buying a header. I looked at the DNA site and all I see are for imprezas. Am I wrong thinking they are the same?

They are the same. You can buy them off ebay listed for the legacy.

[coreyh29645]

Ive had better luck with the dna motoring ones than the speedy racers... better fitment.

I am thinking of buying a header. I looked at the DNA site and all I see are for imprezas. Am I wrong thinking they are the same?

They are the same. You can buy them off ebay listed for the legacy.

i could not find any dna headers on ebay for subarus