Excuse my turbo noobiness, but is a VF48 a drop-in replacement for the TD04, or do you have to do some modification to make it work?
I guess what I am getting at is, can you get the car back up and going before the AccessPort shows up?
Excuse my turbo noobiness, but is a VF48 a drop-in replacement for the TD04, or do you have to do some modification to make it work?
I guess what I am getting at is, can you get the car back up and going before the AccessPort shows up?
2010 SH9 Forester X Limited
1992 KS4 Sambar SDX S/C - JDM Kei Truck
2017 BN9 Legacy 2.5i Premium Eyesight - Wife's car
2013 GP7 Impreza Sport - Daughter's car
2004 BEE Outback Sedan - Legacy B4 RS30 Project - Scrapped
I am going off of the pictures posted here:
http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...29-post36.html
Everything bolts/plugs up in the same places....
A few other forums and places say that it should be a direct swap as well, so I am not too concerned.
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
It depends again what engine is in the car.
This is an ej255.
This is an ej257 style engine bay.
The differences between the turbo mounting between both is big. Nether style with fit on the other manifold setup. Everything would have to be swapped to make one or the other work. So if you have a td-04 that bolts to the tmic then a vf48 won't work.
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Chevyman
1993 Legacy FWD 4EAT "Daily"
2006 Legacy Spec B "Project"
I understand what you are saying, but the engine layout doesn't change the fact that the Forester (XT and Japanese STI), the Baja (turbo), and the S402 all have EJ255s, despite their layout being similar to the EJ257 my Impreza STI has. Hell, the S402 has an EJ255 with a twinscroll, so I know that turbo won't fit on the other EJ255s.
I figure there are different types of EJ255s, just like there are different EZ30Ds, and even different EJ257s (look up the GVF/GRF STI A-line). The EJ255 in my Forester just happens to be the same layout as the engine in picture #2 you posted.
I'm just arguing the designations because that's all I know. When it comes down to the nitty-gritty of the mechanical applications, the designations are more or less meaningless. Being on this forum has taught me that much. There are so many people here that actually know their way around the engine bay, but get their "alphabet soup" mixed up or confused. I know all the designations and numbers because I have all the books and have taken pictures of the ID plates in person (for the Japanese models too). So believe me if I say what a designation is (as long as I verify it - my memory kind of sucks), because I have the information from Subaru itself. However, I am barely able to point out what most of the major parts of an engine bay are, but not much past that. So I won't ever try to say what does/doesn't work/fit together. That's what I rely on you mechanical guys for!
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
Haha got ya man. Yeah I am not arguing whether or not it's an ej255 or ej257 at this point just don't want you to buy parts that are not going to work on your setup. I do know the STi Ecu is interchangeable with your car though. 04 FXT is my next car unless a Legacy comes up for a decent price.
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Chevyman
1993 Legacy FWD 4EAT "Daily"
2006 Legacy Spec B "Project"
That's cool about the ECU. What years STI ECUs work like that? Will the immobilizer cause any issues? I'd swap the ECU from my Impreza to the Forester to check it out if it weren't so heavily tuned....
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
The top picture posted there is legacy gt and 08-14 wrx style, the ej255 in the Baja turbo, FXT, and 06/07 wrx is setup very much the same as the traditional ej205/ej257 in regards to the turbo and intercooler fitment.
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
Sorry I had typed up that post and had to put my phone down for a while, I forgot to refresh the page before posting.
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
I believe it would be an 04 STI ecu that would work. I think they didn't have the immobilizer. But I am not 100% sure on that.
My cars:
2019 Impreza Sport
2008 Miata
2009 Legacy 3.0R Limited- Sold
1998 Legacy L wagon- Sold
2000 Outback- Sold
Even though winter is over, it was Christmas today!
Christmas part 1 anyway. I am still waiting for the turbo and I have to order the ECU. I'm having trouble finding one for what I am willing to pay.
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
Why do you need an ECU?
and which ECU are you exactly looking for?
98 GT -- Intro to Subaru. Cooked HG, dead suspension, and lots of ricer mods.
02 Outback H6 -- No more HG issues, but ate two 4eats.
09 Subaru Tribeca -- slow and ....um fat, definitely fat.
13 E350 S212 -- No more Subaru!! Why does that make me happy?
To respond to these two questions, I will just repost what has been discussed in this thread so far:
Reading over on SubaruForester.org, I see some of the same discussions. Therefore, it would be easier and MUCH cheaper to swap ECUs than get an Access Port and tune it. After all, this is for my wife. She's not exactly a street racer. She thought the H6 was fast...
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
Ahh... ok, I see. You just want it for the factory STI tune rather then actually getting the stock one tuned, right?
Have you tried PMP auto group? Sorry I haven't jumped in in awhile. The '05 up FXTs are tuned off of a LGT style Ecu. As far as I know only an '04 STi Ecu with work because of the i mobilizers.
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1993 Legacy FWD 4EAT "Daily"
2006 Legacy Spec B "Project"
It is cheaper. 150 versus buy an Accessport for 300-600 depend on if you get it used and another 300ish to have the car protuned.
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Chevyman
1993 Legacy FWD 4EAT "Daily"
2006 Legacy Spec B "Project"
I checked PMP auto group, but no dice. The only ones I can find are on ebay for $350. No thanks.
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
I might be a little upset right now.....
The turbo came today so I set out taking everything apart.
The screen in the banjo bolt is still intact and fine, the turbo has no shaft play and other than some old oil buildup seems fine, and there was a torn hose going to the T-section above the turbo. If that stupid little hose was the reason I just dumped a lot of money into new parts I'm going to be sad.
On top of that, I somehow broke my 3-ton Craftsman jack. NO idea how that happened...
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
So I've been looking online regarding the loss of the EGT sensor in my cat-less uppipe and what to do about it. It seems like I have to get an Access Port after all so I can have it tuned out. Does anybody know if the STI ECU does the same thing? After all, the STI has a cat-less uppipe too, right? I feel like I am not understanding something correctly, but I don't know what it is.
I also found out that the hose that was broken and separated was a vacuum line. So I'm guessing that WAS the reason I had lost boost and the engine sounded funny when I tried to accelerate. Crap. I also broke a few more hoses and bolts. So I have to order those too now. I know I'll appreciate the job when it's done, but the journey sure sucks.
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
If I'm not mistaken the sti wasn't equipped with the egt sensor, so you shouldn't have a problem with that aspect of it.
If it does there is always the old resistor mod the wrx guys use to fool the ecu, you'd have to look at that on nasioc though.
Okay. I'll go ahead with the STI ECU purchase then. The vehicle should still work with the Forester ECU though, right? I mean, enough to move it out of the garage so I can move the S401 back in?
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
Yeah it'll run just fine for that, the only thing you'd have problems with is in boost fueling.
So it turns out the VF48 is pretty much plug and play. I had to bend a pipe up a little because it was longer than the one on the TD04, but other than that it fit fine. I am still waiting on the dealer to get the parts so I can replace the hoses and bolts that I broke when taking everything out. I was told Tuesday at the earliest. I have everything pretty much buttoned up other than that stuff. The wife even helped change the fuel pump! I was surprised by her offer to help. She was bored out of her mind though...
I attempted to change the spark plugs and I got a coil pack stuck between the engine and fender. I can't get it out... I've already changed the plug, I was trying to put the coil pack back in when I got it jammed in there. After helping a friend change the plugs on her Nissan Rogue, and remembering how easy it was on my Miatas, I am convinced that Subaru hates people who change spark plugs.
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
Huge thanks to Hinyo for coming over and helping out. I'd seriously still be cursing and stressing if he hadn't helped out (and, he pointed out, I would've ruined some more hoses). Everything is buttoned up now and waiting for the hoses and lines I ordered from the dealer, which are estimated to arrive tomorrow.
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
Replaced the hoses, changed the oil filter, put some oil in it and started it up.... But it sounded a little odd. Just changing the uppipe shouldn't've given it such a loud rumble. I double checked the exhaust fittings and I can't find a leak either.... huh.
Also, I had to turn it off because there was smoke coming from the turbo.... I don't know what to do now.
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
So the smoke turned out to be just oil and coolant that I had spilled burning off. However, I took it out for a drive and the engine temp gauge says it's overheating. It also throws code P0545, but that's expected since it doesn't have an EGT sensor anymore. I still haven't tuned it or swapped the ECU, but if I'm not boosting or driving very hard, then I shouldn't be having issues, right?
Current lineup(click on links):
His: '05 Impreza STi / '91 Suzuki Cappuccino / '15 Honda NM4
Hers: '04 Forester XT / '02 S401
Past lineup:
His: '95 Legacy Brighton / '93 Suzuki Cappuccino / '08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Hers: '97 Legacy GT-B Ltd / '05 Mercedes E500 4matic / '02 H6 VDC Sedan
Sorry I haven't read this earlier then now. I'd highly suggest getting the tune asap! Even if you stay out of boost the ECU has no idea of the bigger turbo or up pipe installed. We'll talk more on Saturday.
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Past Vehicles:
'95 BD L "Lucy" SOLD
'96 BK Brighton "Charlotte" RIP
'99 BG Outback "Cheyenne" RIP
'04 GD WRX Limited "Stacie" SOLD
'72 Datsun 510 "Little Miss Sunshine" SOLD