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    Re: Engine swap questions READ HERE FIRST

    Some of this information isn't exactly accurate but nonetheless still a good summation for anybody wondering. EJ20K was only produced for a single model run, then they switched to the EJ205/207. EJ20K isn't known for its reliability but out of the box is a very strong motor.
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    Very helpful thanks for the sticky now I know what engine to use for my swap 2 thumbs up

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    Would I be able to swap block halves? Like swap my open deck block for a semi closed deck without having to worry about wiring? I don't have to worry about emissions where I live, so I was planning on swapping the open deck for a semi closed deck and put my ej25d heads on it. Boost it, and put in a new ecu or piggy back.
    I wouldn't have to worry about the wiring normally associated with swaps right?

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    ^^Swapping the block for another one of the same displacement (and keeping the static compression ratio about the same) won't require any other changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike-tracy
    ^^Swapping the block for another one of the same displacement (and keeping the static compression ratio about the same) won't require any other changes.
    And if I wanted to change the compression (lower eg. for a turbo) the only change I would really need (electrically) would be engine management correct?

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    I found a 04-05 WRX in a junkyard near my girlfriend's house and after reading this topic, immediately got all happy inside because of it. So according to this, the swap would work and all I would really need to do once its dropped in is to rewire it, bolt together, and then shim the turbo crossmember and lenghten the exhaust so everything fits? Also the tranny on the WRX was automatic, so I'm wondering if I'm gonna have some problems?

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    Buying a parts car would be your best option. That way you have all the parts you need and more to sell to get some money back. That is what I did to fund my swap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by httrdd
    Buying a parts car would be your best option. That way you have all the parts you need and more to sell to get some money back. That is what I did to fund my swap.
    Well the car is wrecked. I'm stoppin by tomorrow to check it out and see what's what so I know what's salvageable. I'm really hoping the engine is, but at the same time, I'm worried about the tranny problem

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    Re: Engine swap questions READ HERE FIRST

    THats something I was thinking about, with my 98 wagon having 240k on it, shes tired. I wanted to do a respectable swap from a wrx or so but I cant have my daily driver sidelined long enough to pull the wiring harness and rewire the entire car as well as swapping out the motor and trans.

    If I were to pull the 2.2 w/ 5spd from another car will I have to pull the wiring too or just the ecu? I already have the clutch pedal assembly, and I know Ill need the reservoir, cables etc but will it match wiring-wise?
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    Question: What about swapping the EJ33 from the SVX into an 01 Outback? I've seen them done onto older Outbacks, but I was wondering if it's possible for the newer one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnrknght
    THats something I was thinking about, with my 98 wagon having 240k on it, shes tired. I wanted to do a respectable swap from a wrx or so but I cant have my daily driver sidelined long enough to pull the wiring harness and rewire the entire car as well as swapping out the motor and trans.

    If I were to pull the 2.2 w/ 5spd from another car will I have to pull the wiring too or just the ecu? I already have the clutch pedal assembly, and I know Ill need the reservoir, cables etc but will it match wiring-wise?
    If you were to pull a 2.2 w5spd, it would have to come w/the rear diff to that 5spd (or another FGR matching rear diff).
    Also, if the car you're swapping all of that into was a 5spd to begin with, then everything concerning the engine will be plug & play, wiring & all.

    If the car you're trying to swap all of that into is an auto, there are some wiring differences due to the EGR & such.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingAsura
    Question: What about swapping the EJ33 from the SVX into an 01 Outback? I've seen them done onto older Outbacks, but I was wondering if it's possible for the newer one?
    Shoot for an EZ30. That way, you won't run into too many issues when you go for emissions, which will fail you for having an older engine in that new of a car.

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    Eh, it was just an idea. I have an old SVX with the motor with 154K on it, and the thing will be heading to the junk yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingAsura
    Eh, it was just an idea. I have an old SVX with the motor with 154K on it, and the thing will be heading to the junk yard.
    Save that engine & wiring harness.
    Dropping one of those into a BD body or a GC body will create a small rocket with tq to spare.

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    Well I don't have the money to play with removing the engine and stuff, but if someone else would like, message me for the info on the car.

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    Re: Engine swap questions READ HERE FIRST

    Hey everybody, I'm doing a swap into my bd legacy, although I know the swap will work I do have a question.
    The downlow: I'm replacing my 95 ej22 automatic motor to a 98 ej22 came out of a vehicle equipped with a standard transmission...I know that I will have to use my 95 intake manifold and wiring if I wish to equip the egr back into the motor(because the 98 manifold isn't tapped for it). If I don't want to equip the egr back into my car will it have adverse reaction on performance? I have heard that the intake manifold from that motor flows a ton better, so my next question is that if I can use the intake from the 98 and use the 95 wiring harness for the intake? Maybe I can just take the plug for the egr solenoid out of the harness or just tuck it away.
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    This is the right place to ask that question right?
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    Hey guys I have a 99 Legacy SUS that had an EJ25D and the head gaskets went for the second time. So I found a 2.2 with the dual port exhaust and swapped it in and it runs fine but the lights wont stop flashing. The hazards and the cluster lights are flashing. Does anyone know how to make this stop?
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    Re: Engine swap questions READ HERE FIRST

    Quote Originally Posted by EJ205B11
    Hey guys I have a 99 Legacy SUS that had an EJ25D and the head gaskets went for the second time. So I found a 2.2 with the dual port exhaust and swapped it in and it runs fine but the lights wont stop flashing. The hazards and the cluster lights are flashing. Does anyone know how to make this stop?

    Assuming you unhooked the battery when you did the swap. It sounds like your keyless entry system isn't happy with you.

    http://www.cars101.com/subaru/keyless.html#code alarm

    That will help.
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    Are the two green connectors under the steering wheel connected? They shouldnt be.
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    Wow I'm really glad I found saw this, I have a 2000 outback auto with a leaky hg and the tranny is starting to shift hard so I'm thinking a swap to the ej20t with the 5 speed is in order, the only thing I don't understand is the wirin, my out back is a limited so it has the dual sunroof and heated seats, i honestly don't know if these could be spliced in? But everything else seems pretty straight forward
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    OK so I have read this twice now to make sure but it doesn't give me the info I need so here is my question. I have a 99 legacy wagon L 30th anniversary 2.2L and I have been told a few times that the 99 2.2 was special for that year and no other 2.2 can just bolt in so is this true if so what are my options for a swap, can I keep the ECU with a different engine or can I do an easy engine and ECU swap with say a late 90's 2.5 and ECU but use stock harness?

    P.S. the 2.2 in it was toast after i was teaching a friend to drive a MT when he went at tack from 3rd to 2nd and the motor took full revs till it was at normal RPM for that gear and it made a hell of a knock after that and my assumption is he floated a valve and the piston smacked it.

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    Re: Engine swap questions READ HERE FIRST

    The same ej22 came in the 99-01 impreza. You can also use an ej251/3 from a 00-04 ish legacy, impreza, or forester to replace your blown motor, just swap your intake manifold and timing gears over to it.
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    ok cool thank you now 1 more question if i were to take say a 2.5t out of an early 2000 forester would it work with just the ECU, engine intake manifold and timing gear? or would their be more involved cause it's a turboed motor?

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    Re: Engine swap questions READ HERE FIRST

    it would be far more complex. You'd probably have to do a wiring harness merge. Then again, I'm not an expert.
    Also, I'm not sure where you're from, but at least in the US, Foresters didn't get a turbo until the mid-to-late '00s.
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    To be a 2.5 turbo forester it would have to be 04+ that's at least a harness merge. A turbo swap would be fun, but you're looking at a whole lot of work.
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    ok thank you guys now what would have a 2.5 turbo that is in the year range to work because i really want a turbo so i don't have to go threw all the work of putting one in and then having the ECU remapped for it. i would rather have it ready to go unless a turbo install is not that bad and i'm in Maine USA so i would be dealing with mostly US models although i can get some crazy import engines from Canada if i had the funds.

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    Re: Engine swap questions READ HERE FIRST

    I'm pretty sure anything with a turbo is going to need a full harness merge. you're talking about two totally different beasts between NA and turbo motors.
    Maybe you can do an EJ22T, but I'm not sure.
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    So I'm looking at a 2003 WRX EJ205 swap into my 98 Legacy GT wagon. what exhaust parts do I need to use to make this work? does the WRX downpipe fit? what about the exhaust bits after that? will the downpipe mate up to the original LGT exhaust or are there other exhaust systems that will fit?

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