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    Applied model: GF8C58P "Version 2" Standard WRX wagon.
    Engine number: Not listed again, just says "EJ20G"
    Manufacture date: 07/08/1995 (7th Aug, 1995)
    Transmission AT.
    Power: 220ps / 6000rpm
    Torque: 28.5 kg/m / 3500rpm
    Compression ratio anywhere from 8.5-9:1

    Nothing greatly exciting about this model, but you can assume that being an auto that engine has probably never been thrashed as bad as a manual sedan for example. As always with hydraulic 20G's (yes this will be the same design as your sedan, direct hydraulic heads), the composite head gaskets tend to fail after 250,000km, just from pure age related degradation.

    The auto's tend to be detuned from their manual siblings, so tend to be more reliable. By 1995, the WRX had been pumped up to 260ps, the STi RA a stagering 275ps (On the small green AFM and grey tops!! Relying on a 5th injector to atomise in the intake manifold to reduce intake air temps, kinda like water meth injection), but the lowly auto wagons still only put out 220ps, like the legacy RS 6 years prior to it, and are actually down on torque compared to the first release WRX manuals. These engines also DEF do come with a TD-04, nothing fancy. I can also tell you they are def open deck too. Sorry, don't know compression ratio, but my GUESS is 8.5:1, but there's a good chance they could be 9:1.

    BUT don't let these comparatively "dull" numbers fool you, they are capable engines, and given a different ECU, they liven right up. Even the lowly auto rex engines still have far more potential than the legacy RS motors, and only take a gently tickle to produce very very decent power!

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    Small update.

    Stock motor out. 304k



    What happens when your bore scope attachment falls off in cylinder 1.




    Still need to dump the drivetrain and suspension and then swap in the impreza stuff. Have Tein coilovers and camber plates to go in.

    BBS installed so I can sell the wheels that came on it.

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    Getting somewhere. TD05H is going to get rebuilt soon.





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    Woop! I like progress...

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    TD05H freshly rebuilt






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    Still gathering parts, haven't got much else done with the weather.

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    Is the plan to get this up and running and then start the work on your '99 swapping over to a clean shell?
    '95 Subaru Legacy L AWD Wagon - Original Owner lBBS l CUSCO l WHITELINE l SPT
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    The shell probably won't be for a while but yeah that is pretty much the plan.




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    Sent from my HTCD200LVW using Tapatalk
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    '99 Legacy wrx wagon - RIP east coast rust
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    93 gt/b - current
    '94 Ti
    '93 Postal

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    Small update. Dead91Silvia has my hood ready for paint.




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    much past due update. this thing should be already on the road but, well... i am lazy, work graveyard and am always working on someones car.

    motor is in, wired, and running.



















    testing the hood. wanted to fit a GC scoop by the air intake. @Dead91silvia still needs to paint





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    No, not the mini scoop! Don't do it man, don't do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    No, not the mini scoop! Don't do it man, don't do it!
    '02 BE Limited GT - SOLD
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    Love this build, but I'll also advocate for no mini scoop in the hood. I do however like the OEM Subaru hood vents on this hood... I'll stop preaching my opinion now! LOL

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    3 months since my last update... a lot has been done.

    new dash along with factory stereo and cd player. nardi wheel and subaru shift knob. ver 6 GF8 STi seats. Fujitsobo titanium muffler and exhaust system done. hydraulic clutch conversion. polished out the headlights, they matched the gold wheels before they were so yellow. color matched mirrors and door handles. new tint.
    JDM taillights. JDM bumper (not installed yet) JDM front 4 pots. vented rear disc brakes. kinda decided to go with a Syms theme.














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    @Dead91silvia finally painted my hood

    windows re-tinted. JDM BBS installed.










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    the car is running real nice right now. its running a stock GC8 Z4 ecu. damaged the zerosports while wiring the patch harness so i need to get it fixed. here are some pics of the car at West Coast Subaru Show 18 last weekend.


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    Aaaaaaaaw yeah, looking fucking good! You've done a bloody epic job with conversion, and done over only a summer. Good stuff.

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    I love those wheels too. I wanted and still want a set for my 3.0R. Are yours the JDM model with the +48 offset?

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    It's really coming together for sure! Just need to do a bit more paint work, at least on my end. I was happy with how the hood turned out too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98legwag View Post
    I love those wheels too. I wanted and still want a set for my 3.0R. Are yours the JDM model with the +48 offset?
    Yep, they are

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    Yeah, first gen love! Need more of that round here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    Yeah, first gen love! Need more of that round here!
    What do you think about the scoops? More so the side scoop... I know you didnt like the idea. What do you think?

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    I've always disliked the little side scoops. I understand Americans like that sorta stuff, with a long history of non fictional scoops on mustangs etc (even though this does feed air to the filter!) but yeah, nah... Doesn't suit the vehicle in my eyes, and I don't like asymmetry.. Just an opinion, but hey, thats what forums are all about, sharing thoughts and ideas.

    On the WRX scoop though, meh, 100% essential if one is to run an air to air top mount. Trust me in this, legacy scoops are inadequate for hard driving, intake temps skyrocket. but for daily duties they are ok. I know I need one on beast, but I'll live with the high temps because I really like the look of that car as is right now. There's a BG GTB limited in town with a WRX scoop like that and every time i see it I think 'yeah.. nope, not happening to beast'.

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    Fair enough. It actually took me a LONG time to get the side scoop to fit right. And yeah, we do have a lot of cars with scoops, that dont do a damn thing. It had to have the scoop for the intercooler, but the side was an after thought. We both like it, I just like to hear what others think about it.

    To me the scoops on the BG/BK/BD's are really small and any time I pushed the GTB, it would get really warm and didnt like it. Sometimes though, they can just be too big, like using an STi scoop, those are massive and look out of place most of the time.

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    That scoop you used is an STi scoop to me btw. 96-00 STi (yeah I know to you it's a 2.5 Rs scoop) I agree, GD STi scoops are silly big on any other car. I hate how many GC's in NZ have them fitted, they really ruin the lines of a car that doesn't have the harsh edges and flares that a GD does. Style is important too! GC scoops work on pretty much any other 90's subie though, they have the rounded edges to match the lines of the car, and they aren't too chincy and big. I like the GC scoop you've done there, it doesn't distract you from the rest of the car, which is what you want.

    You know the stock vents the GC's have on the turbo bonnets each side. I would have gone with those. That part of the bonnet is a negative pressure zone, so any holes in the bonnet there draw air out (not push air in)(thank Ol Bruce mclaren for finding out that neat trick). You could get excellent air flow if the vent was above an otherwise sealed off air box, that could only feed from the fender, or front of car.

    Bit of trivia for yah. Those aforementioned vents the GC's have, the keen Impreza guys will know they are blocked off from factory. The covers that block the off are removable, Subaru called them winter covers, and it's implied you take them off during summer to reduce engine bay temps if that's your thing, they aren't fake like some might suggest!

    No I'm not trained in aerodynamics, so if I'm wrong I'm wrong btw.

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    lol.... Interesting bit on the airflow. I know on my GTIR I can take the vent blocks out, I just forget to put them back in after winter. haha... I actually have been meaning to take some string to that scoop just to see if it actually works. And yes, for us the RS and Outback Sport came with those scoops, I think after 97 over here. The big scoops are a little much on the older cars.

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    Car has come a long ways since my last post. Cant believe it's been this long. I wish tapatalk worked so I can post pics from my phone.

    Car now runs an enduring solutions board, Nissan 300zx twin turbo maf and is tuned at 20psi.
    Comp clutch stage 3 segmented disc installed with a 4.44 trans and suretrac diff. Apexi modded vf22 turbo and a JUN 1.5 scroll equal length header, sti 550 injectors.

    Car gets up and moves. Taking it for another tune soon and going to push the turbo to its limit.
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