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    Lowering the Outback

    Hey all, I'm just testing the waters, but eventually I'd like to lower my Outback about an inch, so what are my options? I believe it's a BH chassis, so I'm assuming what works with BH Leggies works with BH 'Backs. I know Cusco makes a coilover setup for the "BH5 Legacy", wondering if anyone has experience with this? I'm also looking at Whiteline springs and new stock struts for a simple, low cost solution. Any other things I should look in to?

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    a tried and true combo is the KYB GR2 struts with Eibach springs.

    The rear suspension design is different to the Imprezas, so you would have to be cautious with that. The 00-04 chassis changed the game a bit.
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    I've seen the Eibachs but for some reason they're only listed for 02-04 Outbacks, not 01's? Any idea why this would be?

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    Probably a listing error.
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    It's like that on multiple sites, though. But you see no reason why they wouldn't work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast 'back
    It's like that on multiple sites, though. But you see no reason why they wouldn't work?
    Is it for the same spring? Then it's eibach's error.

    Trust me, they all have the same multilink rear suspension.
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    What about the GR-2s? They're not listed for any Outbacks. Is it confirmed that they'll work?

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    Yes. Maybe try looking under Legacy instead of outback, you may get more listings. There's no difference in the chassis, just the suspension itself, which doesn't matter if you're putting on all new springs/struts.
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    yeah, there are tons of listing errors for BE/BH - bastard-child subarus, apparently.

    Legacy struts alone will lower you 1" if I remember correctly and springs will give the rest of the lowering. There was a thread somewhere where a guy installed outback rear struts and springs on his legacy sedan and it lifted the rear end. maybe here or nasioc, I forget!
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    Awesome. I don't want to lower any more than an inch so maybe whiteline springs with GR-2s.

    Now you've got me all giddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast 'back
    Awesome. I don't want to lower any more than an inch so maybe whiteline springs with GR-2s.

    Now you've got me all giddy!
    That setup will lower you more than one inch on an Outback, and about 1 inch on a Legacy.

    Remember - stock outbacks have HIGHER suspension. So when you put in suspension designed for a Legacy, you're automatically dropping from Outback heights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huffer
    Quote Originally Posted by Fast 'back
    Awesome. I don't want to lower any more than an inch so maybe whiteline springs with GR-2s.

    Now you've got me all giddy!
    That setup will lower you more than one inch on an Outback, and about 1 inch on a Legacy.

    Remember - stock outbacks have HIGHER suspension. So when you put in suspension designed for a Legacy, you're automatically dropping from Outback heights.
    Right, but the Whitelines are the springs I found with the least drop, so since the struts will drop me an inch, I want springs that won't drop too much more. My only concern is my sway bar hitting the exhaust.

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    You'll be dropping several inches if your switching from Stock Outback springs to after market Legacy springs. Hell you'd drop several inches just switching to stock legacy springs

    The rear sway bar wont hit the exhaust so you don't have to worry about that

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    What ten80 meant was that if you keep the outback springs and put Legacy struts on your outback, you'll drop it one inch. The outback's height over the Legacy is probably 2.5" or more (I don't know exactly how much it is on the BE/BH, it might be more than the BD/BG).

    So going with suspension designed to drop a standard Legacy is really going to make your outback look slammed, with 3.5 inches lowered or more...

    I'd say, go with KYB GR-2s and stock Legacy springs and call it a day for lowering, if you don't want to go extreme. That'll keep the camber issues down.
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    How much stiffer are the legacy springs? I know my car weighs at least 200 lbs. more than the Legacy, is that gonna be a big issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast 'back
    How much stiffer are the legacy springs? I know my car weighs at least 200 lbs. more than the Legacy, is that gonna be a big issue?
    Actually, since you weigh more, you probably got slightly stiffer springs to compensate.

    Check to see if they have an H6 version of the springs you're running. At least the front will have the right spring rate for the heavier engine.

    I wonder how would a lifted Legacy L on outback suspension look like...hmmmm
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    Yes, 200lbs is right:

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    (taken from the master curbweight thread on Nasioc)
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    But I don't think 200lbs will make that much difference, honestly. You might get sag a little earlier, but 200lbs isn't that big of a deal.

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    personally, i would swap my subframe spacers for standard legacy ones. That would drop you a bit and give you more negative camber gain on roll than stock. It's probably cheaper than new oem bits too.

    You should check with someone who actually cares about outbacks though.
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    Oh, right, I forgot to mention that. If you're going to go Legacy suspension, you'd want to remove those spacers too...
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    Where are said spacers located? Can they just be removed or do they have to be swapped with different spacers?

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    You'll need to use the legacy spacers.

    There is not going to be any option that will allow you to drop your outback only 1 inch. You can go much further down, or much further up
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    ive got an 04 baja and am considering a suspension upgrade. i want the baja to have stock legacy level ride height... ive seen pics of kyb gr2's and h&r springs, and it seems a bit too low for my liking.

    does the baja have the "spacers" that are mentioned above? any suggestions?
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    It's mostly likely the same as the outback setup, so I would guess yes.

    Using those pictures as a reference, you can go take a look
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    Quote Originally Posted by narenji
    ive got an 04 baja and am considering a suspension upgrade. i want the baja to have stock legacy level ride height... ive seen pics of kyb gr2's and h&r springs, and it seems a bit too low for my liking.

    does the baja have the "spacers" that are mentioned above? any suggestions?
    As far as I've determined, the spacers don't influence ride height, just the distance from the subframe to the body, and thusly the CV angles. You should look into new KYB GR2 struts for the Baja and some Whiteline control springs for about a one inch drop. Or if you want stock Legacy ride height, just swap in a Legacy suspension.

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    if anyone is looking to get rid of their stock legacy wagon springs 2000-2004, let me know...
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