MSD Conversion (Update: wiring picture added 11/4/07)

[track8]

Now I just need to find the connector for cheap and theres a 2002 Neon on CL as a part out. Just need to find out what he has in it still.

So from my understanding, you can mount the coil with the connector on the same side as our stock coil and just reverse a couple of wires. Also should I get the MSD igniter?

In case you cannot find the connector used, the connector is available new @ NAPA: http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail ... 20+2020029 and probably any other place that sells Echlin products.

Yes, the coil can be clocked in either direction with just the corresponding switch of the 2 outer (trigger) wires.

I know of no one using the MSD igniter pack although it is much cheaper than any of the replacement ones out there. Not sure of the wiring aspect nor compatibility. It ain't quite plug 'n' play.

Don't let the hood scoop bolt bounce on your coil for too long! Or at all really.

[J.McDonald Knives]

Now I just need to find the connector for cheap and theres a 2002 Neon on CL as a part out. Just need to find out what he has in it still.

So from my understanding, you can mount the coil with the connector on the same side as our stock coil and just reverse a couple of wires. Also should I get the MSD igniter?

In case you cannot find the connector used, the connector is available new @ NAPA: http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail ... 20+2020029 and probably any other place that sells Echlin products.

Yes, the coil can be clocked in either direction with just the corresponding switch of the 2 outer (trigger) wires.

I know of no one using the MSD igniter pack although it is much cheaper than any of the replacement ones out there. Not sure of the wiring aspect nor compatibility. It ain't quite plug 'n' play.

Don't let the hood scoop bolt bounce on your coil for too long! Or at all really.

Thanks. I got the connector for free from school since they had a Neon that was not working and they said I could get the part from it. Before I solder the two outside wires together I'm going to just wire tie them together and then try starting up the car and if it works then I will solder them together.

[track8]

Cool, that'll work.

[J.McDonald Knives]

Well its finished, cut off the factory harness to do it cause I don't plan to change it later cause the MSD coil is much cheaper than a stock Subaru coil for mine. Bolt size that worked for mine was M6 x 45mm. Since I went straight to the stock wiring harness the colors are as follows:

Subaru > MSD harness

Yellow > Green
Black > Black
Red > Blue


And the connector is on the same side as the stock coil. I also used the plug wires off of a 98 Legacy 2.5 and the boots were perfect for the MSD coil and the other ends were the exact same for my plugs since mines DOHC. So what do yall think? It did make my exhaust leak louder but when the sun starts going down more I'll be fixing that today, got new exhaust manifold gaskets and some copper coat. I figured I would give the wire colors for everyone whos going to do it like I did.

[anothernord]

Nice. Also, OBX makes a coil pack similar to the MSD one, and it's a little cheaper. I've been running it for a couple years with no problems.

[Soul Shinobi]

Thread pitch on the bolts?

[J.McDonald Knives]

Thread pitch on the bolts?

M6-1.0x45mm is the bolt so the pitch is 1.0 but at the auto parts store thats all they come in but not sure at the hardware store.

Nice. Also, OBX makes a coil pack similar to the MSD one, and it's a little cheaper. I've been running it for a couple years with no problems.

You got a link to it and the specs?

[Soul Shinobi]

What order are the wire colors in (say, left to right from the back of the plug in the installed position) in case we get a connector for a Neon coil pack?

[J.McDonald Knives]

What order are the wire colors in (say, left to right from the back of the plug in the installed position) in case we get a connector for a Neon coil pack?

Mine was from the Neon. Thats what colors I posted. I said MSD instead of Neon tho. If you want to basically make an adapter plug like in the OP then just hook up the stock connector that you cut off your old coil and hook it up opposite of what the OP did and you will have the harness on the stock side.

[J.McDonald Knives]

If anyone wishes to decode the wire colors to go from the stock ignitor to the MSD 6302 Ignitor, here are the wiring diagrams. PIN 18 is a ground. If anyone can figure this out we would appreciate it. Here is the link to the .rar

http://jmcdonaldknives.com/Files/Sub...g_Diagrams.rar

[J.McDonald Knives]

Bump to see if anyone can figure out the wiring for the ignitor. I plan to do the mod during the fall.

[littlehadsell]

most def goig to do this, whts the best wires and plugs to go along with the MSD coilpack?

[J.McDonald Knives]

most def goig to do this, whts the best wires and plugs to go along with the MSD coilpack?

Best wires are Magnecor. For plugs I just stick to OEM.

[Soul Shinobi]

What's the part number on the Magnecor plug wire set? I guess there'd be a couple depending if the coil pack is centered on the engine or off to one side like on the newer cars...

[J.McDonald Knives]

What's the part number on the Magnecor plug wire set? I guess there'd be a couple depending if the coil pack is centered on the engine or off to one side like on the newer cars...

If you got DOHC just call up Boxer4Racing and tell Dale that you need Magnecor wires for a 98 Legacy. Not sure what year the SOHC wires were for but I guess that you got the DOHC engine. But if you have the SOHC motor just tell him what you got and he will tell you what wires will work.

[Soul Shinobi]

I actually found some info on Magnecor part numbers. Oh wait, I actually found their catalog!



So I'm guessing the different part numbers (despite similar coil packs) account for different wire lengths and plug-side boot ends (and how they meet up with the valve cover).

[Reason]

I can beat their magnecore prices at that website. Fyi

[J.McDonald Knives]

Well I have a 97 which used a 96 coil from the factory and had female terminals on the coil but when I switched to the MSD coil I had to buy wires for a 98 Legacy because the boots on the coil side were female cause the MSD coil has male terminals but they are an exact match as far as the boots go.

[Soul Shinobi]

So you want 45339 I think and I want 45277 for my '98 2.2L.

[Soul Shinobi]

Bump to see if anyone can figure out the wiring for the ignitor. I plan to do the mod during the fall.

Have you checked this out?

http://www.msdignition.com/uploadedFile ... ctions.pdf

It's MSD's install instruction for the coil (8239), including wiring in other things I don't understand. Just sounded like what you were looking for.

[J.McDonald Knives]

[quote=Soul Shinobi][quote="J.McDonald Knives":29ghdnvi]Bump to see if anyone can figure out the wiring for the ignitor. I plan to do the mod during the fall.[/quote]
Have you checked this out?

[url="http://www.msdignition.com/uploadedFiles/MSDIgnitioncom/Products/Coils/8239_instructions.pdf"]http://www.msdignition.com/uploadedFile ... ctions.pdf[/url]

It's MSD's install instruction for the coil (8239), including wiring in other things I don't understand. Just sounded like what you were looking for. [/quote:29ghdnvi]
If you look a little further up I have included a .rar file that has the wiring schematic for the MSD coil as well as the Subaru wiring schematic. All else fails I can talk to one of my instructors at school and have them help me figure it out. Fall semester is starting on Aug 29th.

[TahoeLegaSTi]

Bumped for Future reference