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    EJ22T into a BD: What all is needed?

    What all is needed to get an ej22t into a BD and running. I know I need, the motor, turbo cross memeber, custom exhaust, custom IC piping (FMIC) and associated gauges. The things I am not sure about are: Do I need a different fuel pump? And what would be needed as far as the ECU goes? Is it possible to get the Stock Turbo ECU to run the engine in a BD?

    The first stage of this would be done as cheap as possible, hence why I asked about the stock turbo ECU, cause I don't have the money to go fullblown stand alone ATM, and it's not really nessecary on a mostly stock ej22t. Basically, for atleast a while, I would want to be running nothing crazy, just slightly more boost from the stock turbo (or possibly wrx/sti take off?) nice 3inch exhaust, and a FMIC setup. Any and all information is welcome.
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    Yes. I know actually getting it in the car wont be an issue. I'm more concerned with the wiring aspect.
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    Wiring, I don't know alot about, but yes, you should upgrade the fuel pump ,and if you;re planning on running more boost, maybe upgraded injectors too.
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    The whole OBD1 motor into my OBD2 car thing is kinda worrying me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grayguy
    The whole OBD1 motor into my OBD2 car thing is kinda worrying me.
    Minnesota doesn't have emissions testing/inspections do they?
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    no emissions testing here
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    Ok, I just got done talking to my ej22t genious friend about some things, and I have a lot better Idea of what i think I want to do now.

    I'm thinking use the EJ22T short block, and the ej25 heads and intake manifold. I'll build a custom Up-pipe to go to a TD04l turbo. I want to run a FMIC, so that's obviously all custom piping. And all custom 3inch exhaust. I am still not certain on injectors. Some say my 2.5 injectors are the same as the STI pinks, others say I need something else, does anyone know for sure?

    As for management, my friend suggested using MAF Translator with a good AF meter and MAP sensor. That puts me at about $760ish for managment. this management seems very user friendly and has lots of features. He also suggested I use a GM boost control Solenoid ($60 dealer part from the typhoo/cyclone blazers of the early 90's) to electronically control boost. The nice thing about the MAF Translator is I could apparenly tell it that I want a certain AFR and PSI at any given RPM, and the computer would figure out how it needs to adjust the fuel curve to get the desired affect.

    I would hope to begin withrunning around 10psi on this setup, and once I knew everything was going correctly, I would eventually turn it up to the 15-16psi range.

    Thoughts on this setup/idea? Has anyone here run the MAF translator management?
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    Not sure about your management stuff, I've never messed with any of those. However, I do know that the N/a ej25 injectors are NOT the same as the STi pinks.
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    well we pulled the 22t heads off.. we needed a little breaker bar to get the head bolts off but it worked out fine...


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    saweeet. I can't wait until I'm rebuilding myself an ej22t. What all are you doing to the motor? It looks like it might need a cleaning
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    What are the head bolts supposed to be torqued to?! All these engines laying in a garage is making me antsy to start my project!
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    I'm not sure what the heads are supposed to be torqued too, but we seriously needed that much to get them off (keeping in mind that pipe flexed a fair amount)

    I'm going ej22t short block (stock internals for now) with the ej25 heads and intake mani. I already picked up a WRX tmic, and I just bought a 16G (TD05) turbo too. Hopefully this project will start rolling faster after I finish up finals this week.
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    The Sti Pink run in excess of 500 cc's wile...I think 2.5's run around high 3's to low 4's. I know the 2.5 fuel rails are larger than an ej22's.

    Someone correct me if i'm wong on the 2.5 injectors.
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    On a side note, I love how light subaru motors are. Really, for a guy like me it's no problem to carry 'em around.
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    I'm pretty sure i'm going to run 650cc SR20 nissan injectors like my friend is doing on his ej22t. I still have to discuss that setup with him though.
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    Should get that block dipped to remove corrosion. Have the crank balanced too...

    Looks like a great project!
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    For the time being I'm not taking the short block apart. In 1-2 years when i can afford a tranny, it'll get pulled back out and get rods/pistons, and lots of balancing. For now it's keeping the stock bottom end. I will defiently be spending some time cleaning eerythign out the best I can before re-assembly though.
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    Well update time: I got my heads back from the machine shop, I just got my oil/water pump yesterday. I still need to drill/tap my heads and then the motor can go back together. I went with the ACT clutch. Tonight I got my FMIC all figured out, and it's pretty much ready to go. I am also working on the dash and HVAC relocation, but I'm not quite done yet. Here's the FMIC pics:



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    Dash roughed in:

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    how are those gauges held in
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkushner4474
    how are those gauges held in
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    dear god, let this thread keep alive w/sweet tales of 22t bliss. I'm ready for more power soooo bad and the 22t is the only way that I can tell if you're going to be buying piece by piece.....
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    lmao I love how the circulation controls (heat, ac) look almost like they're a part of the stereo!

    That's a pretty nice shot of the FMIC, low key. Are you going to do anything to prevent damage to it from FOD?
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    Wow. How are you planning to run your IC piping? space is soo tight up there.
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    The gauges are pretty much pressure fit in ATM. I still need to work that out.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "FOD?" But there wont be anything infront of the intercooler if that's what you mean?

    The IC piping. It comes off the FMIC, drops down under the fog lights, bend back up and through the hole in the engine compartment that the stock one goes in. Then on the other side, it does the same except I need to drill a 3'' hole where the battery used to be.
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    FOD as Foreign Object Debris or Foreign object damage. Though, it looks like it'll be pretty well protected...
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    What work do you need to do to the heads to make it work with the block?
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    ^ he just has to tap em for oil or coolant (for the turbo), i forget, one needs to be taped, but one needs to be taped the other you can just remove a bolt for.

    besides that and getting the proper HG its a bolt on affair i belive.
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    Umm yay? Why haven't I been involved in this... jerks. :smt076 (Kidding)
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