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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian_Funk
    ...I need to find out to make sure my own personal chariot doesn't have the blasted system soon, anyway ....
    Or you could just look under your dash and see if there is an OBDII port.....
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    what is a OBDI? Why would i want to swap my motor into a 95?

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    just look at the emissons sticker on the hood it will say obd1 or obd2.. the car might have a obd2 plug but be obd1.
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    if your car was built after 1995 then it's very sure to have OBD-II
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuevaCustoms
    what is a OBDI? Why would i want to swap my motor into a 95?
    OBD, on board diagnostic. OBDII has alot more sensors and is checking many more things on the motor and also resulted in evap systems being integrated and monitored.

    OBDI is much more archaic and easier to fool. The only thing easier is a carburated motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by decke48
    just look at the emissons sticker on the hood it will say obd1 or obd2.. the car might have a obd2 plug but be obd1.
    This is news to me. It doesn't make sense but whatever.
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    An OBDI system will NOT have an OBDII port, that doesn't make an ounce of sense. All cars were required to have an OBDII system from 96 on. That doesn't mean that earlier cars didn't have the system. The 95 Legacy has OBDII built into it, since it was a new model, Subaru probably just got ahead of the game and didn't want to change things after the first model year.

    I think it's a common misconception that 96 was the first year for OBDII in every single car made for the US market. It doesn't make any sense that you'd be able to plug an OBDII reader into an OBDI system with an OBDII port and actually get readings.

    But, you might have a 95 with an OBDII system that may not be subject to the stricter regulations that a 96 would have because the inspection rules probably only apply to model years, not the small variances on every model year of every car.

    So if you want a BD/BK to swap an EJ22T into, I guess a 95 would be the best option. I'd recommend swapping out the harness and the ECU as well though, otherwise you'll probably run into problems with all those pesky OBDII sensors.
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    Yeah, this is very true, as I have begrudgingly noticed on my Legacy, and will make getting my emissions tested after doing an engine swap rather interesting. I guess I'll just have to clean up my old engine after I put in the new engine so I have a nice clean N/A EJ22 specifically for emissions.

    I am mildly curious as to how this thread about CuevaCustoms wanting to turbo his first gen leggy (or just keep the EJ20 twin turbo that he all ready has) got turned into a huge discussion about OBD and its various incarnations. I'm going to put this to rest right now: chances are good all second generation Legacies DID have OBDII on them, meaning even '95s had it. Live with it. I have it, you have it, we all have it (except you lucky bastards with first gens).

    Quote Originally Posted by CuevaCustoms
    what is a OBDI? Why would i want to swap my motor into a 95?
    Plays_With_Toys mentioned that your car had OBDI due to it being a '93, and that such a diagnostics system is why a '95 would be perfect if you want the newer look, because there was some speculation that it doesn't have OBDII what with it not being required until 1996 by the US gov'nerment. After that I was an idiot and went on a tangent about my car hopefully not having OBDII (a thought in which I was of course, sadly mistaken). After that, well... Things got a bit fuzzy I guess . Make no mistake, your car is your car, and thus yours to do with to your pleasing. Except maybe taking it to be turned into a ton and a half paper weight.

    If any of this information is incorrect, then someone may correct me by all means . Once again, I wish by no means as to be thought of as an "expert" .
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    Why the heck would you keep an EJ22 around "just" for emissions?

    Just have the car registered as a special vehicle. Most states have that option, that gives your car a low-volume exemption to EPA testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huffer
    Just have the car registered as a special vehicle. Most states have that option, that gives your car a low-volume exemption to EPA testing.
    Don't count on using that option for Missouri. I learned the hard way.
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