OK so, do I need to get NGK FX58 to do this mod on my USDM EJ25 Phase I?
Thanks a lot!
Kev-Bot
OK so, do I need to get NGK FX58 to do this mod on my USDM EJ25 Phase I?
Thanks a lot!
Kev-Bot
1997 Subaru Legacy Outback Limited wagon (all options except sunroof)
Black, with black leather interior, black tinted window (15 degree for 5 rear 35 front) Black American Racing 16" rims w/ winter force tires
Low miles engine **REBUILT**
Weapon-R "secret weapon" air intake, K&N Air Filter, NGK Plugs, Borla headers, Bosal hi-flow cats, Borla exhaust (modified for wagon)
Low miles Transmission
This car BACK on the the road, and running STRONG!
225,500Mi
Or is it NGK FX50?
1997 Subaru Legacy Outback Limited wagon (all options except sunroof)
Black, with black leather interior, black tinted window (15 degree for 5 rear 35 front) Black American Racing 16" rims w/ winter force tires
Low miles engine **REBUILT**
Weapon-R "secret weapon" air intake, K&N Air Filter, NGK Plugs, Borla headers, Bosal hi-flow cats, Borla exhaust (modified for wagon)
Low miles Transmission
This car BACK on the the road, and running STRONG!
225,500Mi
The FX50 are what you're looking for. I bought some of a '99 Legacy 2.5GT and they fit perfect.
1997 Subaru Legacy 2.5GT 5MT
- Borla replica, custom 2.25" catback stromung track pipe 20" vibrant streetpower
- MSD 8239 Coil Pack, NGK wires/plugs.
- KYB AGX Whiteline Control springs
- Whiteline adj anti-roll bars F/R
NICE!!
1997 Subaru Legacy Outback Limited wagon (all options except sunroof)
Black, with black leather interior, black tinted window (15 degree for 5 rear 35 front) Black American Racing 16" rims w/ winter force tires
Low miles engine **REBUILT**
Weapon-R "secret weapon" air intake, K&N Air Filter, NGK Plugs, Borla headers, Bosal hi-flow cats, Borla exhaust (modified for wagon)
Low miles Transmission
This car BACK on the the road, and running STRONG!
225,500Mi
i think this is next on my list... good write-up!
Justin W.
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99 2.5 GT Limited "QuickSilver" 5MT
07 Impreza 2.5i "Urban Grey Metallic" 5MT
Pm reason. He is slow to get back to ya, but he gives good prices!
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99 LGT H6 Limited OBP
A little bit of Wrx, a little bit of 2.5RS, a little bit of STi, a LOT of SVX!
Will I ever supercharge this Eg33???
Originally Posted by chuckthefuk
One of the MSD coils on eGay, .99c start (not mine etc);
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-MSD- ... ccessories
can i have the coupon for the pizza for $7.99?
No, no ,no I'm not insulting you, I'm describing you!
Thats pure jokes man. I am still laughing and I saw this a few minutes ago.Originally Posted by lord flashheart
97 Legacy GT (5MT)
-Tanabe GF210 Springs, Whiteline 24mm RSB, Perrin endlinks
-Borla headers, 2.25" custom header-back, Magnaflow axleback
-Injen CAI & GroupA TBS
-Perrin LCP
-Royal Purple & Mobil1 fluids
Just curious, what year Neons have the correct coil pack for this mod when using the neon pack?
And also, would a coil pack from a 2.0L non turbo Second gen eclipse work? I know the Neon and Eclipse non turbo are both 2.0L and similar motors, but idk if they are the same.
If anyone knows that would be awesome.
I ask because my buddy has a spare stock coil pack from his 420A eclipse. Lol
Just asking to make sure. so if there is no MSD pack for the BE thats means no pack aswell for the BH-wagon. just clarifying as i got a 00' 2.5L Wagon.Originally Posted by Matty2Hotty
I read threw the whole article thinking oh i cant wait to do this, untill i came across Matty's post.
I"m thinking about doing this I have the coil and I just want to make sure its going to be safe. No one here said anything about changing plugs. There is one leggy with a 2.2 and he had to go to a colder range because he was burning them up. I have a phase 1 2.5. Again I just want to make sure i'm not going to hurt anything.
Originally Posted by Benders
That is the coil you want. The 420A that is in teh 2G NT DSMs is the same as the Neon R/T 2.0 from the same years.
2014 Subaru Legacy 2.5i 6M - FB25 w/ a 6 speed
2002 Subaru Impreza TS2.5 - EJ51 w/ a 5 speed (The Stormtrooper)
Why hasn't anyone just linked to a couple of coils and wires saying "This is exactly what you need for 2.5, this is exactly what you need for 2.0" there's so much back and forth that reading all 3 pages has only confused me more.
Woo! Just did this mod but with the round terminal, 8229. Got the wrong ngk wires(dont fit quite right) but made them work and my goodness does it feels much better. Smoother acceleration, feels a little faster and sounds beastier(uel headers, 2.25 piping to a magnaflow exhaust). Not sure if ill save gave because i just feel like smashing.
Oh and the wire i have are ngk fx58.
Dumb question, but does anyone know if they make the NGK FX50 in red? My current wires are red and i would like to keep it that way. However i havent been able to find any.
NGK FX50's are blue, just installed a pair a few weeks ago.
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough"
Has anyone installed an actual MSD box along with an MSD ignition coil? I'm planning to get one for my 96 2.2 (MT) and at first I was getting different answers. First time I called they told me I can use any of the 6 series boxes with any of their coils. Second time I called someone said they have nothing for me to use. Finally on my third call today, guy named Peter said I can use the 8239 coil, with an 8883 harness using a DIS-2 box, which finally made sense. I'm wanting to know if anyone has had experience doing an actual install on a 96 subie 2.2 just to get an idea. Also can anyone suggest where I can get it at a good price? Thanks.
Ok, managed to get a used dis2 (pn 6211) off ebay, not too bad for $95 shipped. Got the 8239 coil at streetside racing for around $66 shipped and the 8883 harness for $25 (ebay as well). Installed the coil first (2 weeks ago), had to use the spark plug wires from a 98 outback but it worked. Haven't really noticed any changes in mileage but that's because I haven't changed plugs yet. I finally got the dis2 installed today and so far the car is running. Will start running it on a fresh tank starting tomorrow so I can check the mileage changes. Then when it's not too cold later on in the week I will change the plugs. I do need to get better plug wires though, I got the autocraft ones and they are only 7mm thick. MSD told me to get the 8.5 ones. Hope to see good changes. I'll post later. In the meantime I hope everyone has a great holiday season!
Damn you beat me to it. I was planning on doing this. I've been talking with someone at MSD about this for some time now. Actually started talking to him this past summer a few times then wrote.back for a.second confirmation a few weeks back. I'll post up the part numbers if they are any different from what you got. Did the tell you you may need the tach harness?Originally Posted by ronin777
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1993 Suzuki GSX-R 750
1998 BK L PARTED
1991 Legacy SS SOLD
1997 BD GT R.I.P. 12/24/06 Running Mean with 117 whp!
1989 Honda CR-X A.K.A. "The Beast"
1991 Suzuki GSX-R 750 R.I.P. 11/10/06
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It was Rick who I recently talk to. And those part numbers you were told are the same. And the tach/fuel adapter that he said I may need is PN 8912. So if you have issues get one of those. Iamcurious on how this will turn out.
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2010 BM GT
1998 BD L EJ25/EJ22 High Compression
1993 GSX-R 750 (version 2.0)
1993 Suzuki GSX-R 750
1998 BK L PARTED
1991 Legacy SS SOLD
1997 BD GT R.I.P. 12/24/06 Running Mean with 117 whp!
1989 Honda CR-X A.K.A. "The Beast"
1991 Suzuki GSX-R 750 R.I.P. 11/10/06
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Can you take a second to explin exactly what you're doing? Are you adding a part in addition to the coil pack?
-Nick
1992 BC Legacy L Sedan AWD 5MT 272,000 - Wish you the best
1998 BK Legacy L Wagon 5MT 234,000 miles - RIP (rebuilt heart with 42k lives on)
2002 SF Forester S Wagon 5MT 215,000 miles - Current winter sleigh
1986 FC Mazda RX-7 GXL Coupe 5MT 155,000 miles - Summer cruiser
2006 EX-250-F Kawasaki Ninja 250R - Old bike, will sell next year
2007 K7 Suzuki SV650S - New bike, will also see track days
Yes sir, short version, it cranks up the juice a bit, and is fully adjustable.
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2010 BM GT
1998 BD L EJ25/EJ22 High Compression
1993 GSX-R 750 (version 2.0)
1993 Suzuki GSX-R 750
1998 BK L PARTED
1991 Legacy SS SOLD
1997 BD GT R.I.P. 12/24/06 Running Mean with 117 whp!
1989 Honda CR-X A.K.A. "The Beast"
1991 Suzuki GSX-R 750 R.I.P. 11/10/06
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I'm going to have to demand pics and a wiring diagram when you're done!
-Nick
1992 BC Legacy L Sedan AWD 5MT 272,000 - Wish you the best
1998 BK Legacy L Wagon 5MT 234,000 miles - RIP (rebuilt heart with 42k lives on)
2002 SF Forester S Wagon 5MT 215,000 miles - Current winter sleigh
1986 FC Mazda RX-7 GXL Coupe 5MT 155,000 miles - Summer cruiser
2006 EX-250-F Kawasaki Ninja 250R - Old bike, will sell next year
2007 K7 Suzuki SV650S - New bike, will also see track days
Wiring is pretty simple if you buy the harness mentioned.
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2010 BM GT
1998 BD L EJ25/EJ22 High Compression
1993 GSX-R 750 (version 2.0)
1993 Suzuki GSX-R 750
1998 BK L PARTED
1991 Legacy SS SOLD
1997 BD GT R.I.P. 12/24/06 Running Mean with 117 whp!
1989 Honda CR-X A.K.A. "The Beast"
1991 Suzuki GSX-R 750 R.I.P. 11/10/06
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The plug wires mentioned, would the MSD ones be better than the premium NGK offering we often discuss here?
-Nick
1992 BC Legacy L Sedan AWD 5MT 272,000 - Wish you the best
1998 BK Legacy L Wagon 5MT 234,000 miles - RIP (rebuilt heart with 42k lives on)
2002 SF Forester S Wagon 5MT 215,000 miles - Current winter sleigh
1986 FC Mazda RX-7 GXL Coupe 5MT 155,000 miles - Summer cruiser
2006 EX-250-F Kawasaki Ninja 250R - Old bike, will sell next year
2007 K7 Suzuki SV650S - New bike, will also see track days
Hi Reason, sorry for the late reply, just read your posts today and I hope you had a great holiday. My tach works fine without the adapter, so you shouldn't need one either. I just changed the plugs today, it's been about 4 weeks since my last post and I am still getting about 22-23 mpg, I think it's because I still have the old plugs. It's been cold here in the DC areal lately so I've been lazy. I'm glad I finally changed the plugs though, I just discovered the car still has the old bosch platinum plugs which is a no no when using MSD. Hope I have better results with this tank, I got the NGK laser iridiums gapped at .050 (experimenting). I'm still searching around for low resistance spark plug wires to replace the ones I bought. I've got my eye on the magstar wires (Advanced Auto parts) but I'm still researching. I wonder if the 7mm NGK wires would work? The guys at MSD recommends using the low resistance wires but said they don't make any for my car. Oh well, I'll post this week's gas mileage later. Have a good week!
Accel makes custom low resistance wire. Pro sports or something like that. There claim 250hms per foot. I was actually going to try to collect various wires to measure the ohm resistance on multiple wires made for our cars.
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2010 BM GT
1998 BD L EJ25/EJ22 High Compression
1993 GSX-R 750 (version 2.0)
1993 Suzuki GSX-R 750
1998 BK L PARTED
1991 Legacy SS SOLD
1997 BD GT R.I.P. 12/24/06 Running Mean with 117 whp!
1989 Honda CR-X A.K.A. "The Beast"
1991 Suzuki GSX-R 750 R.I.P. 11/10/06
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Hi again Reason,Originally Posted by Reason
If you can can you post your results? I am an idiot when it comes to using my multimeter (I need a crash course, lol!) and so I am totally useless for that. I did read a post at srtforums and they seem to favor granettelli wires but they're so damn expensive.
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f77/...-wires-414289/
Lemme know what you think. And by the way I am serious as far as learning how to REALLY use a multi-meter so I'm open for a crash course if anyone would be kind enough.
Yes thats the same thing what I wanted to do. So if people want to send me used wires I'll take them. I'll take new ones too from all different models. I'll post up results of new and worn wires.
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2010 BM GT
1998 BD L EJ25/EJ22 High Compression
1993 GSX-R 750 (version 2.0)
1993 Suzuki GSX-R 750
1998 BK L PARTED
1991 Legacy SS SOLD
1997 BD GT R.I.P. 12/24/06 Running Mean with 117 whp!
1989 Honda CR-X A.K.A. "The Beast"
1991 Suzuki GSX-R 750 R.I.P. 11/10/06
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