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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    OK so, do I need to get NGK FX58 to do this mod on my USDM EJ25 Phase I?

    Thanks a lot!
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Or is it NGK FX50?
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    The FX50 are what you're looking for. I bought some of a '99 Legacy 2.5GT and they fit perfect.
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    NICE!!
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    i think this is next on my list... good write-up!
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Pm reason. He is slow to get back to ya, but he gives good prices!
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    One of the MSD coils on eGay, .99c start (not mine etc);
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-MSD- ... ccessories

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    can i have the coupon for the pizza for $7.99?
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Quote Originally Posted by lord flashheart
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Just curious, what year Neons have the correct coil pack for this mod when using the neon pack?

    And also, would a coil pack from a 2.0L non turbo Second gen eclipse work? I know the Neon and Eclipse non turbo are both 2.0L and similar motors, but idk if they are the same.

    If anyone knows that would be awesome.

    I ask because my buddy has a spare stock coil pack from his 420A eclipse. Lol

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Quote Originally Posted by Matty2Hotty
    Dang, well msd needs to make one or something... Lame.


    Quote Originally Posted by anothernord
    Quote Originally Posted by Matty2Hotty
    Anyone try this mod on like a BE? I have a 01 2.5l I want to upgrade.
    The BE has a 4-wire coil pack, so nobody has been able to get it to work yet.
    Just asking to make sure. so if there is no MSD pack for the BE thats means no pack aswell for the BH-wagon. just clarifying as i got a 00' 2.5L Wagon.
    I read threw the whole article thinking oh i cant wait to do this, untill i came across Matty's post.

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    I"m thinking about doing this I have the coil and I just want to make sure its going to be safe. No one here said anything about changing plugs. There is one leggy with a 2.2 and he had to go to a colder range because he was burning them up. I have a phase 1 2.5. Again I just want to make sure i'm not going to hurt anything.

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Quote Originally Posted by Benders
    Just curious, what year Neons have the correct coil pack for this mod when using the neon pack?

    And also, would a coil pack from a 2.0L non turbo Second gen eclipse work? I know the Neon and Eclipse non turbo are both 2.0L and similar motors, but idk if they are the same.

    If anyone knows that would be awesome.

    I ask because my buddy has a spare stock coil pack from his 420A eclipse. Lol

    That is the coil you want. The 420A that is in teh 2G NT DSMs is the same as the Neon R/T 2.0 from the same years.
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Why hasn't anyone just linked to a couple of coils and wires saying "This is exactly what you need for 2.5, this is exactly what you need for 2.0" there's so much back and forth that reading all 3 pages has only confused me more.

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Woo! Just did this mod but with the round terminal, 8229. Got the wrong ngk wires(dont fit quite right) but made them work and my goodness does it feels much better. Smoother acceleration, feels a little faster and sounds beastier(uel headers, 2.25 piping to a magnaflow exhaust). Not sure if ill save gave because i just feel like smashing.

    Oh and the wire i have are ngk fx58.

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Dumb question, but does anyone know if they make the NGK FX50 in red? My current wires are red and i would like to keep it that way. However i havent been able to find any.

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    NGK FX50's are blue, just installed a pair a few weeks ago.
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Has anyone installed an actual MSD box along with an MSD ignition coil? I'm planning to get one for my 96 2.2 (MT) and at first I was getting different answers. First time I called they told me I can use any of the 6 series boxes with any of their coils. Second time I called someone said they have nothing for me to use. Finally on my third call today, guy named Peter said I can use the 8239 coil, with an 8883 harness using a DIS-2 box, which finally made sense. I'm wanting to know if anyone has had experience doing an actual install on a 96 subie 2.2 just to get an idea. Also can anyone suggest where I can get it at a good price? Thanks.

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Ok, managed to get a used dis2 (pn 6211) off ebay, not too bad for $95 shipped. Got the 8239 coil at streetside racing for around $66 shipped and the 8883 harness for $25 (ebay as well). Installed the coil first (2 weeks ago), had to use the spark plug wires from a 98 outback but it worked. Haven't really noticed any changes in mileage but that's because I haven't changed plugs yet. I finally got the dis2 installed today and so far the car is running. Will start running it on a fresh tank starting tomorrow so I can check the mileage changes. Then when it's not too cold later on in the week I will change the plugs. I do need to get better plug wires though, I got the autocraft ones and they are only 7mm thick. MSD told me to get the 8.5 ones. Hope to see good changes. I'll post later. In the meantime I hope everyone has a great holiday season!

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Quote Originally Posted by ronin777
    Ok, managed to get a used dis2 (pn 6211) off ebay, not too bad for $95 shipped. Got the 8239 coil at streetside racing for around $66 shipped and the 8883 harness for $25 (ebay as well). Installed the coil first (2 weeks ago), had to use the spark plug wires from a 98 outback but it worked. Haven't really noticed any changes in mileage but that's because I haven't changed plugs yet. I finally got the dis2 installed today and so far the car is running. Will start running it on a fresh tank starting tomorrow so I can check the mileage changes. Then when it's not too cold later on in the week I will change the plugs. I do need to get better plug wires though, I got the autocraft ones and they are only 7mm thick. MSD told me to get the 8.5 ones. Hope to see good changes. I'll post later. In the meantime I hope everyone has a great holiday season!
    Damn you beat me to it. I was planning on doing this. I've been talking with someone at MSD about this for some time now. Actually started talking to him this past summer a few times then wrote.back for a.second confirmation a few weeks back. I'll post up the part numbers if they are any different from what you got. Did the tell you you may need the tach harness?
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    It was Rick who I recently talk to. And those part numbers you were told are the same. And the tach/fuel adapter that he said I may need is PN 8912. So if you have issues get one of those. Iamcurious on how this will turn out.
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Can you take a second to explin exactly what you're doing? Are you adding a part in addition to the coil pack?
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Yes sir, short version, it cranks up the juice a bit, and is fully adjustable.
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    I'm going to have to demand pics and a wiring diagram when you're done!
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Wiring is pretty simple if you buy the harness mentioned.
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    The plug wires mentioned, would the MSD ones be better than the premium NGK offering we often discuss here?
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Hi Reason, sorry for the late reply, just read your posts today and I hope you had a great holiday. My tach works fine without the adapter, so you shouldn't need one either. I just changed the plugs today, it's been about 4 weeks since my last post and I am still getting about 22-23 mpg, I think it's because I still have the old plugs. It's been cold here in the DC areal lately so I've been lazy. I'm glad I finally changed the plugs though, I just discovered the car still has the old bosch platinum plugs which is a no no when using MSD. Hope I have better results with this tank, I got the NGK laser iridiums gapped at .050 (experimenting). I'm still searching around for low resistance spark plug wires to replace the ones I bought. I've got my eye on the magstar wires (Advanced Auto parts) but I'm still researching. I wonder if the 7mm NGK wires would work? The guys at MSD recommends using the low resistance wires but said they don't make any for my car. Oh well, I'll post this week's gas mileage later. Have a good week!

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Accel makes custom low resistance wire. Pro sports or something like that. There claim 250hms per foot. I was actually going to try to collect various wires to measure the ohm resistance on multiple wires made for our cars.
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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

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    Accel makes custom low resistance wire. Pro sports or something like that. There claim 250hms per foot. I was actually going to try to collect various wires to measure the ohm resistance on multiple wires made for our cars.
    Hi again Reason,
    If you can can you post your results? I am an idiot when it comes to using my multimeter (I need a crash course, lol!) and so I am totally useless for that. I did read a post at srtforums and they seem to favor granettelli wires but they're so damn expensive.
    http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f77/...-wires-414289/

    Lemme know what you think. And by the way I am serious as far as learning how to REALLY use a multi-meter so I'm open for a crash course if anyone would be kind enough.

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    Re: Installed MSD Coil 8239 MY96 2.5GT (liquidracing method)

    Yes thats the same thing what I wanted to do. So if people want to send me used wires I'll take them. I'll take new ones too from all different models. I'll post up results of new and worn wires.
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