Swaybar FAQ

[Soul Shinobi]

Strut braces are good to start. The second gen Legacy will take 93-01 braces in the front and 02-05 braces in the rear. The under side H braces only fit turbo cars due to exhaust routing. We don't have the hardpoints for fender braces, but I might weld some in. Also, locking down the rear subframe can help with a nervous rear end. Swaybars along with endlinks and bracket bushings should take care of a lot of roll, and paired with good springs and struts roll shouldn't be an issue. Lowering the center of gravity could help too though.

[prodriver1]

Strut braces are good to start. The second gen Legacy will take 93-01 braces in the front and 02-05 braces in the rear. The under side H braces only fit turbo cars due to exhaust routing. We don't have the hardpoints for fender braces, but I might weld some in. Also, locking down the rear subframe can help with a nervous rear end. Swaybars along with endlinks and bracket bushings should take care of a lot of roll, and paired with good springs and struts roll shouldn't be an issue. Lowering the center of gravity could help too though.

sweet you know alot about the parts I want. so the subframe, should I weld it to the chassis or what do you mean by locking it down? sway bars are my next avenue of attack, I'm thinking a 27mm+ adjust-ability in the rear and solid endlinks are sitting on my worktable in the garage I already have HR springs and I'm going a bit stronger than the KYB GR-2 shocks I have to an adjustable set. I also want to fux with the steering rack and make it a bit quicker but I need to do a bit more research on that front.

[StatGSR]

^ im pretty sure he is talking about something like this bud...

http://www.fastwrx.com/kaboboresulo.html

[Soul Shinobi]

Yeah, subframe lock-down bolts. My subframe is actually so misaligned I'm probably going to weld it to the chassis on my car though, it's too rusty to mess with.

You can't make the steering quicker without swapping the rack or getting really custom, but you can improve the response and feel with polyurethane steering rack bushings, anti-lift kit, and roll center adjustment kit.

[prodriver1]

^ im pretty sure he is talking about something like this bud...

http://www.fastwrx.com/kaboboresulo.html

oh sweet. so there's no bushings? will that lower the car?

[prodriver1]

I'm getting the bushings and a new rack (stock) but an anti-lift kit is a swell ider I'll look it up. getting a 99' leg outback with a 5spd today and I'm going to swap it in the GT and make the outback a auto for the miss and kids. now I can finally do some major work on the GT without worrying about being car-less

[jamal]

how did all this crap end up in the swaybar thread?

[prodriver1]

its related...sort of

[dougall42]

Is there an obvious upgrade to the BH LGT rear swaybar? BH Outback for instance?

[Soul Shinobi]

The rear suspension design is different (multi-link now instead of McPherson strut), they all come with 14mm bars from the factory if my service manual is to be believed.

[dougall42]

Thanks, 14mm dia explains why I need need kevlar elbow pads in the corners.
I thought my 05 LGT was bad with the stock 16mm dia. I upgraded that to Perrin 25mm rear and 22mm front.
The 05 bar won't fit the BH will it?

[Soul Shinobi]

I honestly don't know that, and can't use my service manuals to speculate. Doing a little research, the track width of the cars is different so I'm thinking no, but that's not a definite no; the rear suspension could still be near damn the same.

[dougall42]

I guess I'll crawl under next w'end and find out the hard way.

Thanks,

[Soul Shinobi]

Grab your tape measurer and report back.

[tony_s14]

thanks for the info

[jamal]

I honestly don't know that, and can't use my service manuals to speculate. Doing a little research, the track width of the cars is different so I'm thinking no, but that's not a definite no; the rear suspension could still be near damn the same.

it is damn near the same and I imagine a lot of parts will interchange. I'll have a 3rd gen in the shop this week so I'll take a look.

[blackstar]

I've seen numerous threads posted before about swaybar FAQ's, and I know a few guys out there have this set up on N/A and turbo cars, what I would like to know is, when I install my aluminum control arms JDM style - giving it a slightly wider track is it enough to be concerned about - like install a spacer and call it good / don't worry about it. Or if I were to buy something, should I go with something other then say a replacement Whiteline -# BSF 14 or # BSF 19 or a Rallitek bar. Just looking for any ideas / pictures of different set-ups.

Thanks

[csweston]

One thing to note is that on the rear mounting braces easily break after adding a larger RSB and may go unnoticed. This happened to mine, heres a pic of what im talking about


This on a 97 OB. I replaced it with the white-line braces

[jamal]

yep. the low budget option is 04-07 impreza brackets which I've been using for a few years with a 22mm bar set to full stiff and no issues:

[csweston]

Good to know that works too! I would have gone that route had I known it at the time. What i have now is pretty overkill.

[Huffer]

Just a wee bump for some front swaybar info, specifically a DIY on installing and then some Tribeca FSB part #'s:
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=5756&p=255971#p255971

[98legwag]

I can't seem to find this anywhere so I thought this is the best place to ask. Is the front sway bar the same on a 2nd gen LGT and Outback?

[Soul Shinobi]

I THINK so, but someone else might want to chime in on that.

[prodriver1]

^yep^

[prodriver1]

One thing to note is that on the rear mounting braces easily break after adding a larger RSB and may go unnoticed. This happened to mine, heres a pic of what im talking about


This on a 97 OB. I replaced it with the white-line braces

Soooo so true! I went through 2 sets B4 I had the 3rd set "upgraded" I had them welded in the spots that kept braking AND upgraded the bolts that hold the brackets on, ya thats rite! I went into the frame and put on new and hefty 12mm nuts and bolts. there is a little black rubber stopper close to the rear bolt you can use to hold a nut in a wrench (very fucking carfully ) and you just try and line it up without knocking the nut out of your control and loose it in the frame. then I had the brackets welded onto the frame and fortified like a mutha bitch! now the 27mm rear bar is causing the car to over-steer like crazy that plus new KYB GR-2's and 27" mud tyres its like a Tiff test

[RobE30]

So, who has a suggestion for a rsw size (or pairing of bars) for a car that is street driven no tracking in the foreseeable future. It'll be coupled to freshened up stock suspension (stock springs w kybs) and new bushings etc

[jamal]

options are pretty limited for your car. whiteline 20mm adjustable is the way to go.

[RandyMarsh303]

So I have a 98 BD and I am wondering if this front bar, endlinks, and braces will fit my car. Lots of info on rear sway bars but I did not read much about fronts. Will it all fit? Just the bar? etc etc etc....

LINK>>>>http://fortcollins.craigslist.org/pts/3353526987.html

Just in Case link does not work here it is copied over...

I have a Front Sway Bar for all 1993-01 Imprezas and Outbacks. It is an aftermarket sway bar made by ARC and measures 24mm. It is a huge upgrade over stock. Will Include Aftermarket End links as well.

I also will include Fender Braces. This will stiffen up the front end and improve handling and performance.

These pieces all came off of a Front Clip Imported from Japan.

[Soul Shinobi]

That bar I'm not sure of (useless answer, sorry) but the endlinks will and the fender braces won't, Legacy's don't have the holes where the Imprezas do for the fender brackets.

[RandyMarsh303]

Ok so after re-reading I see that the front bar is supposed to fit from this chassis impreza but this is speaking about the stock 18mm. Does the fact that this is a 24mm bar make a difference.

Has anyone ever modified the legacy chassis to accept these impreza braces. Or the modified the braces to fit? I do know about the DIY brace that is on the forum but asking about this brace specifically.