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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    That's too much power for me at the moment, I plan to run around 3lbs, I'm looking for more efficiency than power. I'm assuming a WRX transmission be a wise investment for running more power?
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    ^ there would be little to no improvement in reliability or strength by swapping to a WRX transmission...
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    How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    The 6mt is really the only upgrade, all the 5mts are about the same level of worthlessness haha.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Well that's garbage, I'm glad I asked lol. I imagine as long as you don't abuse your car everyday it'll last for a while.

    Edit: It'll be difficult to not drive hard with a turbo :smt010
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Quote Originally Posted by lord flashheart
    250whp is roughly 330chp. So...... no the trans won't hold that.
    You people need to realize that 200-220whp is quite a bit. Here in Utah a bone stock STi usually only gets about 210 to the ground. Shoot for 250CHP.
    I know. I'm just putting a number out there. Right now I'm just aiming for boost! :smt016

    ::Edit:: Can anyone point me toward a website that has good engine build parts. I'm talking cams, cranks, pistons, rods, bolts, etc.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    i work for a machine shop and we specialize in subarus, particularly hi-horsepower builds.
    i have all of the said items. PM me a list of anything (engine wise) that you want or need.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Okay. I just wanted to browse. I'm hoping I don't have to buy anything. Prices for new rings, bearings, and gaskets would be nice though.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Fair enough. I'll pm you what I can do for you. If you have questions on turboing cars let me know, as I do this kinda thing for a profession.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    ALSO on the subject of transmissons, I disagree with the said info.
    The legacy 22 trans has a hard time holding 275chp reliably. Where I have seen the EJ20 wrx trans hold 350whp like a champ. The 05+ legacy gt, 06+ wrx and forester turbo trans will hold 400-450+ whp if you are nice. Even a 06 outback non-turbo will hold down the power better than the stock trans.

    What I'm trying to say is that I believe the opposit of what you were saying... Almost any 5mt will be a upgrade. Even the 91 legacy turbo trans would be a solid improvement.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    ^ Thats what I was thinking. I've seen plenty of people hold down 300 whp on WRX trans all day with no issues. The 6 speeds however, are a whole different animal. Check this out...

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    How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    You can make a 5spd survive under power, it's just a matter of knowing how to drive. The problem is that it's just too easy to get carried away once and that's all it takes sometimes.

    The main reason I sold off a lot of my big HP parts was I couldn't justify the $3-4k worth or 6mt I would have had to buy to be confident in my drivetrain.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    by the way on this subject,
    we all know that, subaru introduced the WRX in 2001 for the 2002 model year.. well the first year they had a substantial amount of warranties on the transmissions.
    the 2003 model year they fixed the problem, by adding a 'regulator' in the hydraulic clutch system that only allowed the clutch to be engaged so quickly.
    they didnt change anything in the transmission at all. the problem was how people were driving the cars. they would rev to 3000 RPMs and dump the clutch. i think people were just used to the FWD and RWD cars, where you could get away with that.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Quote Originally Posted by lord flashheart
    i think people were just used to the FWD and RWD cars, where you could get away with that.
    Would that be because the AWD is more traction on the road and giving more stress on the transmission?
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    ^ yup
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Sweet
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    A bit off-topic but could I use a VF11 turbo on an EJ25? Or would that be too small? I'm still looking to make a low budget build I can learn from. 2.2 with 2.5 heads would be a project for later this year
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    I plan to only run 3lbs. I'm looking for more MPGs than power. I also plan to swap cylinder heads from the hydraulic lifters to the regular heads, that should lower my compression correct? The heads are from a 1998 GT with a bad bottom end.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Quote Originally Posted by nikolaus.conrad
    A bit off-topic but could I use a VF11 turbo on an EJ25? Or would that be too small? I'm still looking to make a low budget build I can learn from. 2.2 with 2.5 heads would be a project for later this year
    yes you can. infact, this is my car, EJ25D, VF10, and 5 lbs of boost.

    i made 162WHP
    and just under 200Ftlbs of torque.
    to put that in perspective,
    a bone stock WRX went on the
    dyno before mine,
    it made 165WHP
    and like 160ish WTQ
    so the horspower numbers were
    very close but i had like almost 40ftlbs of torque more.
    good alternative to a WRX swap i think.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    That's awesome! I bet the Power/Weight is a bit better too.

    Which set of cylinder heads do you recommend? I have both the 1996 Hydraulic heads and the regular 97 to 99 2.5 heads.
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Would an 04 WRX fuel pump work for this build? I have an opportunity to pick one up for cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolaus.conrad
    Would an 04 WRX fuel pump work for this build? I have an opportunity to pick one up for cheap.
    A new walbro 255 is only $50
    I've been to boost and back again my friends... and it was good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrison
    Quote Originally Posted by nikolaus.conrad
    Would an 04 WRX fuel pump work for this build? I have an opportunity to pick one up for cheap.
    A new walbro 255 is only $50
    WHERE?
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Voila my friend:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/255LPH-High-Pre ... 19&vxp=mtr

    And many more like it. This is where I bought mine, for my turbo build. (Plus mine was on the way out too, haha)
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Oh snap! Gotta get one soon
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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    I really appreciate lord flashheart for his video. It showed me that my ideas for the next engine to go in my car are awesome. A boosted DOHC 2.2 is indeed very rich in TQ. It just kind of sucks that the 25D cams don't really start doing their thing until about 2500-3000rpms but they DO go all the way to the redline.

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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garrison
    Voila my friend:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/255LPH-High-Pre ... 19&vxp=mtr

    And many more like it. This is where I bought mine, for my turbo build. (Plus mine was on the way out too, haha)
    Thats not a walbro. Walbro are proven pumps and wont leave you stranded. Id rather spend an extra $30 and forget about it rather then end up being stuck somewhere.

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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    if your worried about the strength of the transmission.. this is a video of my 300+ wtq car launching.. 5 speed from a 96 impreza EJ22.

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    Re: How to turbo a hybrid motor?

    Lol it's so funny reading this a few years later, I have the hybrid built and sitting in my garage, what should the spark plug gap be for this engine?
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    .035-.045 if my memory serves me. use the tighter end of the factory spec, but run colder plugs. i think i used heat range 7 NGK on my car.
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