superu/mark 95 Legacy L, 2.2 NA motor.

[superu]

A collection of some Boxer awesomeness to begin this thread!

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Hello all. :smt006 New member here, mod list (off the top of my head) as of March 2010 follows:

Begins with 72Kmi 1995 Subaru Legacy L2.2l NA motor, 5MT, open diffs
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Then I started with the mods. . . :twisted:
snorkus delete
window tint
subaru option rear spoiler
K&N box air filter
exedy OEM clutch (SPEC stage II clutch died after 55K miles)
98 Subaru Outback struts and springs (1.5" lift)
2.25" cat back through cherry bomb and magnaflow muffler
14" aftermarket Al wheels
27.5" BFGoodrich AT/KO tires (1.6" lift)
modified Mudrat tube bumper
rear diff protector
97 Outback hood (w/ scoop)
periodically mounted aftermarket Thule knock-off roof rack (with basket/bike carriers)
receiver hitch (periodically mounted Thule 4-bike carrier)
rear disc swap
98 Outback rear seat bottom

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Utah Rallycross (Honeyville, UT fall 2009)
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:smt026 READ ON FOR MORE AWESOMENESS!!! :smt026

[iampetro]

cool

[Airgne]

awsome 2nd gen. i think 2nd gens only look good lifted.

[2.5GT]

Wow! this is a very good example of a rally legacy!! :smt023

[lord flashheart]

what???? that is so dope!
you from utah?

[inoneday]

I love it :D definitely a beautiful piece of machine

[bluebaru]

this thing is awesome i need some outback struts and springs.

[inoneday]

get them from a junkyard lol :D thats what i did. only got rear ones tho :/ and installing them is not bad at all.

[jockstar]

Where did you get that awesome front bumper

[sybir]

Love the setup. I keep getting conflicted about raising my wagon back up with that same bumper.........or keeping it low so I can just run into stuff.

[dann]

love the skid plate. is that custom made? awesome ride bro!

[jospgut]

wow, is really really cool. i wanna get another BD and lift it up, or lift mine!!! but good job!!!

[chaksq]

Your car is pure awesome! I'd like to see more Legacies modded like this.

[racingking951]

so did the tires add 1.6in to the 1.5in already or did it just take 1.5in and turn it into 1.6in im buying mine from a 99 forester in a week and i was wondering how much the tires will do

[superu]

Wow! this is a very good example of a rally legacy!! :smt023

Hey thanks!! :smt023

(sorry for the delay in responding :wink: )

[superu]

what???? that is so dope!
you from utah?

(sorry for the delay in responding :wink: )
Thanks!! yeah, I'm in Moab

[superu]

this thing is awesome i need some outback struts and springs.

Yes you do :smt023
All the cool kids are doing it! :smt005

Its pretty easy (as inoneday indicates) and WAY worth the mod.

[superu]

Where did you get that awesome front bumper
6 years ago from Mudrat designs and fabrication in Eugene, OR
New designs...
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[superu]

love the skid plate. is that custom made? awesome ride bro!

Sorry for the delays in repsonding to yous guys kudos

Yes, modified Mudrat custom skidplate. But the thing weighs 40 pounds :shock:
So ned taller stiffer springs now.
I usually just run the skid in winter...
Its ALL steel (duuh, weight), with 1" tubes for lateral support, and the side wings are 1/4 " to tidy up the skid to the bumper and close off the sides.

[superu]

so did the tires add 1.6in to the 1.5in already or did it just take 1.5in and turn it into 1.6in im buying mine from a 99 forester in a week and i was wondering how much the tires will do

racingking951,

outback struts and springs added about 1.5" to the stock legacy L suspension, and the 27" (27x8.5x14") BFGs added another 1.5-1.6" ON TOP of the outback strut lift. SO i'm sitting about 3 inches TALLER than stock legacy. So I'm around 9-10" ground clearance to the rear diff, rather than the stock 6ish inches...

What are you getting from the forest, struts and springs? And what are you putting them on?

FYI, I've heard OB struts allow taller tires over FOR struts. I hear the lower spring perch on the FOR struts is a touch lower (maybe allowing for the FOR's taller springs?) than the OB 's lower spring perch. I've heard someon doing FOR struts and not getting as tall of a tire on b/c of the spring perch, he then swapped for OB struts and was able to fit a taller tire than the FOR struts allowed..
BUT maybe like a 1/2 " tire difference.. BOTH FOR and OB will give lift, b/c of the longer shaft b/t the lower spring perch and where the strut mounts to the wheel knuckle...

Anyhoo, yeah, struts gave 1.5" and the tires gave another 1.5" (stock tire 185x75x14 = 24" diameter, BFG 27x8.5x14= 27" diameter, thus taller diameter=taller radius=more ground clearance :smt023 )

[racingking951]

well im limited on used parts down hear in florida soooo if a OB setup would provide better clearance than FOR i would much rather have the OB. i was going to run both struts and springs from the FOR and go get new tires a few days later (i really need to get tires since i got the steel belt showing but i dont want to get tires then lift it then want to get new tires again lol)

i guess ill keep watching ebay and checking the local junkyard for some

[superu]

well im limited on used parts down hear in florida soooo if a OB setup would provide better clearance than FOR i would much rather have the OB. i was going to run both struts and springs from the FOR and go get new tires a few days later (i really need to get tires since i got the steel belt showing but i dont want to get tires then lift it then want to get new tires again lol)

i guess ill keep watching ebay and checking the local junkyard for some

But, racingking951, beware... once you go down that road, there's no turning back :smt029
The lifting and modification road is a slippery slope :twisted:

Yes, checking ebay and even your parts stores are good plans... I did tirerack and got a pretty good deal on my latest OB struts (already had springs from the first round).

OORRRRR,

What I've been reading elsewhere lately is this little tidbit.


If you run entire strut assemblies (strut, spring and tophat) from a second generation forester (they're talking about 04 or 05, with 05 XT being ideal), you'll get I THINK (I have not verified this with my own eyes, just seen pictures after the fact) you'll get 3 inches over stock with that strut package alone... This was mentioned as a way of lifting an outback, with reports of 1.5" lift over stock on an outback...
(do a search on dirtyimpreza.com for lifting and outback, or I can find you the threads in DI if you'd like)
SO with that you may get like 3" in suspension over stock legacy, THEN tires to boot!

BUT word of caution, going over 2" over stock ON ANYTHING, you'll need to drop driveline stuff, like the spacers on the engine crossmember that FOR and OB have over IMP and legacies), and a tranny crossmember bracket, and a rear trailing arm bracket...

SO, there's something to put in your pipe... :smt026

With that said, simplest would be 97-99 OB struts and springs (your tophats will be fine, if they're not destroyed) would be simplest and cheapest... I got my first set shipped from WA when I was in AZ, but that cost me... My friend just did this swap and got the strut and spring for a little more than I got the strut alone from tirerack...

Highest would be second gen FOR assemblies...

This is a late 90's Impreza on second gen forester suspension
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These are the OB parts you'd need (sans the tranny crossmember) to drop the driveline
(stock LEG rear trailing arm bracket)
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(OB trailing arm bracket)
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Engine crossmember spacers
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These are (I'm pretty sure) rear springs from, left to right, 98 FOR, 95 LEG, 93 IMP
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/04/4055226919_16f4124f33-1.jpg

Here are the 93 IMP struts compared to 98 FOR struts, not the longer shaft (thus the lift)
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[racingking951]

thats alot more work than what i thought it would be and thanks for all the info im still determined to do the lift i guess i should save up and get all the parts together first before starting anything if i still want to go that high. what about outback struts and springs and 1.5in strut spacers that lift just the body, would i still need to drop the drive line as well or will i be able to skip this step? thanks again for all the info

[MadScotsMan]

That is just flat out cool. Nice job!

[superu]

thats alot more work than what i thought it would be and thanks for all the info im still determined to do the lift i guess i should save up and get all the parts together first before starting anything if i still want to go that high. what about outback struts and springs and 1.5in strut spacers that lift just the body, would i still need to drop the drive line as well or will i be able to skip this step? thanks again for all the info

:evil: I had this whole informative response typed out, then lost my net connection!!

Basically what I think I said was, I'd suggest just going OB struts and taller tires. You might get away with doing a 1" spacer on top of the strut without needing to drop the driveline too, but that's only a might.

If you go over 2" higher than stock in suspension lifting (like second gen FOR strut gear), or OB struts and taller springs (like king springs' raised springs), OR OB struts and spacers (body lift), you'd need to think about much more stuff...

BUT, if you just stick with OB struts and taller tires, you'd be fine!! I'd suggest getting new KYB GR2s (or excell G as they're called now). You can get them on a pretty good deal from tire rack, and you will have new parts rather than 160,000++ mile used parts with little to no life left in them, AND the KYBs are a touch stifer response than squichy stock suby struts (which are also made by KYB, just to Suby's softer specs for production cars)


*BUT* b.c your CV axles currently have their "wear pattern" established on stock height, you may need to keep in mind that switching your axle angles (via OB lift, or spring lift or spacer lift), it may fatigue your axles quicker... BUT if that be the case and you swap cvs, they'll be happy starting life at the new height.


Make sense? :smt017


SO, to conclude (again ;) what I guess I'm saying is, I'd suggest OB strut swap and taller tires (27" is fine no problems with an OB strut swap) and you'd be psyched. If you still need more, you might be able to squeeze in 1" or less of spacers without needing to drp the other stuff..


:smt006 k, bye, happy lifting

[racingking951]

So i went to tire kingdom to get new taller tires like the ones you have but not as big and they told me anything bigger than stock will break the diff. Have you ever hear of this or are they just full of s***

[superu]

So i went to tire kingdom to get new taller tires like the ones you have but not as big and they told me anything bigger than stock will break the diff. Have you ever hear of this or are they just full of s***
That's an "F'ing" line!!!

They might be giving you some smoke up your skirt to "cover their insurance" rather than just saying they're "...not comfortable installing larger than recommended"...
I did test fits to determine up to 27ish" would fit with no rubbing lock to lock and a little suspension flex (lowering the car off the lift on a railroad tie-sized block)...

I have had no issues with and of my differentials.
AS LONG AS YOU REPLACE ALL 4 TIRES AT THE SAME TIME, you won't either.

If you did the 26" on front and stock on back to save money, you'd certainly blow your center diff, similarly if you replaced large on right and stock on left you'd blow your diffs..

You will find a discrepancy i your speedo and odo with the taller tires, but that's physics... taller tires = travelling faster than your speedo indicates...
BUT otherwise no. If you swap all four for equal size tires at the same time, you won't have problems...

So did you do the 97-99 OB strut swap? I'm interested in your lifting prgress :smt029

[Nate_B4_Blitzen]

Man this Legacy looks awesome raised and rally'd out...

[racingking951]

thats what i was thinking i even told them at as long as everything is the same size there wont be a problem but he persisted to tell me that another subaru owner got larger tires then blew the diff 3 miles down the road, so in frustration i said whatever just give me a cheap tire for now

but anyways the lift is still untouched lol i figured id do your set up seeing as it seems the easiest im just having trouble finding the springs. ive only fouond them at the dealership so im waiting for something to show up either in the local junkyard or ebay

[TGX4776]

I want that Hill!

I want to do what you are doing but to an outback.

[bluebaru]

So what kind of mpg do you get with this tire/lift setup? You have a 2.2 right?

[superu]

thats what i was thinking i even told them at as long as everything is the same size there wont be a problem but he persisted to tell me that another subaru owner got larger tires then blew the diff 3 miles down the road, so in frustration i said whatever just give me a cheap tire for now

but anyways the lift is still untouched lol i figured id do your set up seeing as it seems the easiest im just having trouble finding the springs. ive only fouond them at the dealership so im waiting for something to show up either in the local junkyard or ebay


LAME!!!!

Yeah, for cost you could just get new OB struts (tire rack) and either reuse your leggo springs (folks have told me they're the same as OB springs) or what I'm trying to do, is use first gen FOR springs in the OB struts.. I think it might give a touch more lift if not just be a touch stiffer...

Anyhoo, checkit: http://www.dirtyimpreza.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16066
$80 shipped is like $20 a spring (like junk yard prices) and free shipping :smt021

I have rear FOR springs to put in and have a PM to this guy for the fronts but he kinda wants to keep the set of four...
enter YOU!! :smt026

good luck and I'll stay tuned

[superu]

I want that Hill!

I want to do what you are doing but to an outback.

King springs from Australia make a "raised" spring that'll lift and OB 2"

Jacksonrally is popular on the dirtyimpreza site, http://www.dirtyimpreza.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12180 they make a 1" spacer (body lift) that bolts on top of the strut and "spaces' the body up off the strut... A good and cheap 1" lift for an outback... They make them that'll fit legacies and outbacks too, not just imprezas and foresters

Or this, swapping second generation forester strut assemblies into a first gen OB will give you about 2" suspension lift...
http://www.teamilluminata.com./Customers/OBAT/obat.htm
also discussed here is springs and new forester struts for lifting: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329349&highlight=lifting+an+outback


good luck and keep everyone posted :smt023

[inoneday]

on my 2000 impreza OBS what struts/springs are a direct bolt on to gain lift? and can i do the strut/spring + bigger wheels & tires w/o doing all that extra work?

EDIT: also on another note does anyone know what stiffer rear and or front swaybar options i have for the
OBS after the lift? preferably not aftermarket.

[superu]

on my 2000 impreza OBS what struts/springs are a direct bolt on to gain lift? and can i do the strut/spring + bigger wheels & tires w/o doing all that extra work?

EDIT: also on another note does anyone know what stiffer rear and or front swaybar options i have for the
OBS after the lift? preferably not aftermarket.

Hang with me here... This might sound confusing... I'm not that familiar with that year impreza... I've done it to a 93, but it should've had the rear trailing arm bracket.. Instead i swapped rear springs..

I'm pretty sure front is fine across the board on all these swaps, but the rear gets tricky across model lines...
I think first (98-01?) or second (02-08?) generation forester is bolt on, BUT you'll have to make sure on the rear tophats. I think the first generation imprezas need their tophats, while foresters go straight over to second (95-99) generation legacies/first generation (96-99) legacy outbacks,
BUT second generation forester's have their tophats that work on legacies. I'm not sure about second generation imprezas (which might be 02-05?) I'm really not sure on impreza year line changes.. Your 00 might be the same as a 98, or 93 for that matter, i'm just not sure myself...

Check out dirtimpreza.com, the cats over there do a bunch of these strut swaps, or 1" spacers (basically a body lift for $250) on TOP of the strut, sandwiched b/t the strut and the unibody...

Regarding sway bars, i'd suggest looking into WRX stuff... Those cats pull stock and trash it all the time for aftermarket, and WRX should be stiffer than OBS or impreza in the first place anyway...

I'm thinking of a stiffer sway set for my legacy too, but not sure what to look for, maybe outback, maybe 99 GT? just not sure yet...

Easiest for your OBS might just be a 1" spacer set.. check out jackson rally on dirtyimpreza.com...

Checkit, here's the link... http://www.jacksonrally.com/

best of luck, and heck yeah, get that thing in the air!! drift it like you just don't care!!! :smt026

[LGT Kirby]

I just fell in love with your car. I see people lowering their cars and whatnot, but what good is that. Its a SUBARU not a freaking Honda. I have a 97 LGT, and I'm thinking of picking up an L and making it my rally car, so I can keep my LGT clean, and then maybe I'd be confortable with lowering it, or better yet just selling it and getting a WRX or something. I love rallying my stock height LGT though. I'm just worried about catching the oil pan. Boy would I be mad. Lol.

[superu]

I just fell in love with your car. I see people lowering their cars and whatnot, but what good is that. Its a SUBARU not a freaking Honda. I have a 97 LGT, and I'm thinking of picking up an L and making it my rally car, so I can keep my LGT clean, and then maybe I'd be confortable with lowering it, or better yet just selling it and getting a WRX or something. I love rallying my stock height LGT though. I'm just worried about catching the oil pan. Boy would I be mad. Lol.

Thanks dood!!
Raise the GT, it would rock in rally cross!

In fact I'm looking to get a steering rack and sway bars from a GT.. It should prove to be an improvement.

BTW folks, I finally installed FOR coils in my rear struts and GAINED another 3/4 inch (or so)!!

checkit:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/06/4729492978_28de649659-1.jpg

Not an extra half coil and i'm pretty sure a stiffer coil all in all.
installed in 98 OB KYB GR2 strut:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/06/4728853847_fb1072c8cf_b-1.jpg


95 leggo on 98 OB struts and coils (with worn out 27x8.5x14 BFGs)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/06/4728844273_3cf589a2f1-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/06/4728845701_23ab5b170f-1.jpg


95 leggo on 98 OB struts and 99 FOR coils (with worn out 27x8.5x14 BFGs)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/06/4729955963_8ff198dcb2_b-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/06/4730599574_5b3503ef41_b-1.jpg

Given the extra half coil in the FOR spring, there may be a slight geometrical difference in the upper spring perch, so I also used FOR tophats, but when side-by side I couldn't eyeball any real difference b/t the FOR and OB tophats...

Here's the profile before (when the BFG's were new, 8-10-06)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/06/3114127366_9cfa3e6049_o-1.jpg


and here's the after profile from 6-23-10 (with 40,000 miles on the BFGs)..
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/06/4728853963_5f33dff999_b-1.jpg

I think, to the eye, it looks more like an inch so maybe i had some inconsistency in measuring.. I did the before measuring a couple of months ago

And possibly the before profile pic above is also on slightly uneven ground, slightly. But maybe enough to compress the left rear a touch...


So, that's my latest (racingking951, FYI, looks like this'll give you a bit more lift (closer to 3.4 almost 4" in ground clearance gain overall, with 27" tires), on the cheaper when compared to doing the whole gen 2 forester strut swap. good luck! what's the latest on your project?)

[DarkPhoenix]

This has inspired me!!! I am picking up an 07 Fozzy XT suspension from a friend of mine sometime this week. I will post some pics in a new thread.

You car is friggin awesome!!!

[subiepurr]

can you do the same sort of bumper for the back? i sorta put my car in a ditch and it lifted up my back.

[Reason]

This car is sweet, if I were to build an off road beast, it would look something like this, but black!

[superu]

can you do the same sort of bumper for the back? i sorta put my car in a ditch and it lifted up my back.

I know, it needs one. The back is a little trickier. Once you pull of the skin, there are vents and lots of sheet metal to cover in a pretty way.... you'll see once you get into yours for cleaning it up...

[subiepurr]

can you do the same sort of bumper for the back? i sorta put my car in a ditch and it lifted up my back.

I know, it needs one. The back is a little trickier. Once you pull of the skin, there are vents and lots of sheet metal to cover in a pretty way.... you'll see once you get into yours for cleaning it up...
heres my car, i plan on building up a new subie in the future, but for this guy i want to to what your doing. btw this is why i was wandering about the bumper in back, i was thinking if i had something like that on there then it would look decent.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/subiecrash001-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/subiecrash012-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/02/photoshoot6-1.jpg
i have another questiom. do you think the my rear end is fixable without a frame bender?

[superu]

Bummer!!

I think the unibodies are weak enough that they can tweak (like yours did ona its whump!), but like with a frame straightener.

Yeah, with the skin off in your second pic, you know what I'm talking about that it'd be a bit trickier to cover up with a steelie... But thinking of the ARB bumpers, you could do a tube skeleton and cover it with some sheet metal in a nice way...

creativity, yo! Ooh, and access to metal and skill with welders :lol:

Check out this guy's WRX, do some searching on dirtyimpreza (he has a couple long build threads) and get motivated by jacksonerally. (mad departure angle :)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/PICT0584-1.jpg

He cut a lot out of the back of this WRX, then beefed it up with tubing and some sheetmetal...

http://www.dirtyimpreza.com/forums/showthread.php?t=765&highlight=build&page=12 this thread page 12 starts the ripping up of the trunk.

before https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/PICT0522-1.jpg

during https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/PICT0500-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/PICT0502-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/PICT0511-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/PICT0530-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/PICT05261-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/PICT04891-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/PICT0494-1.jpg

Its mostly not fair b/c he (jacksonrally) has MAD welding skills! But inspiration and ideas, he dishes those out by example!

Good luck!



can you do the same sort of bumper for the back? i sorta put my car in a ditch and it lifted up my back.

I know, it needs one. The back is a little trickier. Once you pull of the skin, there are vents and lots of sheet metal to cover in a pretty way.... you'll see once you get into yours for cleaning it up...
heres my car, i plan on building up a new subie in the future, but for this guy i want to to what your doing. btw this is why i was wandering about the bumper in back, i was thinking if i had something like that on there then it would look decent.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/subiecrash001-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/subiecrash012-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/02/photoshoot6-1.jpg
i have another questiom. do you think the my rear end is fixable without a frame bender?

[Benfolio]

Ah, here's a thread I can USE! I'm going to be lifting my now lowered L wagon, and was thinking of using Forester struts since I can most likely find used ones with low miles cheap. Not wanting to spend a ton on new OB stuff, or buying cheap worn out old OB stuff from a junkyard.

I have no problems spacing my engine crossmember, or changing the trailing link brackets, but are they ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY? Also considering wheels/tires, should I stick to factory offset, or maybe find something that will shove the wheels outward a tad? I want to run steelies, and was thinking of either Forester 16's, tire rack winter 16's, or maybe some Chrysler 15's that will push the wheels out by half an inch or so. Running 16's I would probably go with a 215/60R16, and 15's a 215/70R15. These will measure out to nearly 28', should I stick to 27' at the max??

I have the luck of being able to try out the setups before I go all in, but just wanted some advice as I am pretty early in the planning stages of lifting it.

[Benfolio]

Oh, and do you have a pic or link to what I need for the trans crossmember from an OB? Tried looking it up online and can't seem to figure out exactly what I need.

[bluebaru]

what year forester springs did you use?

[superu]

what year forester springs did you use?
gen 1 (98-2001?). These specifically were from a 99 fozzy.

[superu]

Oh, and do you have a pic or link to what I need for the trans crossmember from an OB? Tried looking it up online and can't seem to figure out exactly what I need.
While this is from a forester for an inpreza lift. I'm fairly certain its the same setup from OB to legacy
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/cmerce/ForesterDiagrams-2.jpg
from page 49 in this thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1228188&page=49

[superu]

Ah, here's a thread I can USE!
I have no problems spacing my engine crossmember, or changing the trailing link brackets, but are they ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY?

Actually NO. I have not droped any of my driveline from raising my Leggo on OB stuff. As I hear it you can lift things up to 2" taller than stock before you need to consider droping driveline to maintain proper axle geometry. Over 2" (Like forester or OB strut lift, plus raised springs and/or lift blocks), then you need to drop the driveline with all the stuff from this thread (page 49) at post #1212 http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1228188&page=49


Also considering wheels/tires, should I stick to factory offset, or maybe find something that will shove the wheels outward a tad? I want to run steelies, and was thinking of either Forester 16's, tire rack winter 16's, or maybe some Chrysler 15's that will push the wheels out by half an inch or so. Running 16's I would probably go with a 215/60R16, and 15's a 215/70R15. These will measure out to nearly 28', should I stick to 27' at the max??

I have pep boys proline aftermarket Al wheels and unfortunately do not know their offset. My setup is fine with them, so i assume its a propper offset. My spare is a steelie from a 93 legacy, and seems to be a bit more negative? (The tire looks to set medially a bit when comparing where the tire is to the mudflap)... but i have not done the math nor the research to confirm a difference in offset.

I'd say you may be better of with a little offset (positive?) to push them out a touch, just to prevent inside rubbing on wheel lock up front. I agree with your tire size for the 16 (that's where I'm going next), but think 28 might be too tall, for front rubbing... Although a BFH will solve that, and it's probly just the plastic fender liner that you'll hit...


I have the luck of being able to try out the setups before I go all in, . . .

Well that's a luxury for sure!!! While you're at it, find out if second gen OB coils will seat in first gen OB struts. I'm particularly interested if 2000-2002/3 (gen 2 OB) H-6 or H-4 (most interested in H-6 coils) front coils will go in 96-99 (gen 1) OB struts...

Congrats on the lifting project. I'd LOVE to see befre and after from lowered to raised!! That'd rock, you'd go like 4-6 inches suspension/ground clearance difference!! :eek: :eek:
-mark-

[lord flashheart]

hey i was watching some rally cross and i cam across this.
there are a couple pretty cool shots of your car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yLI5n8dWzc

[superu]

headlight cleaning

Before:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/10/DSC_0255JPG-1.jpg
After:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/10/DSC_0263JPG-1.jpg

Before:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/10/DSC_0256JPG-1.jpg
After:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/10/DSC_0265JPG-1.jpg

[superu]

:smt026 Rims, finished and ready for new meats, SICK!! :smt026

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/10/DSC_0252JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/10/DSC_0275JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/10/DSC_0287JPG-1.jpg

[lord flashheart]

mmmm those are hawt.

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

We have the same year and color! Love the Legacy! With the outback suspension swap did u need to fab anything or did all fit perfectly?

[superu]

Essentially bolt and go, no mods needed.

Get 97-99 Outback struts and springs (you could reuse your legacy springs to save money and increase the hassle).
3 tophat nuts and 2 hub bolts per strut.
A little cut-bend-insert-rebend for the brakelines. that way you don't have to drain the brake fluid and deal with undoing brake fittings.

then enjoy increased ride height, fill in the wheel wells with taller tires.

enjoy!



We have the same year and color! Love the Legacy! With the outback suspension swap did u need to fab anything or did all fit perfectly?

[jockstar]

I have a 97 leg. wagon with the OB lift. I love it! Getting bigger wheels and tires this week. probably going with 15 inch wheels in flat black. Hoping to increase my ground clearance a bit. Next step is fabricating a skid plate. Does anyone have a blueprint or measurements for this?

[silverado1026]

i have a 06 legacy 2.5i. whats the easiest thing i can do to lift it a couple inches?

[superu]

i have a 06 legacy 2.5i. whats the easiest thing i can do to lift it a couple inches?

I think OB parts too. From 2001 on the legacy platform (legacies and legacy outbacks) got a different rear suspension from foresters and imprezas. BUT as such you can still lift legacies with same model year outback parts. So I think you'd looks for 05-09 outback stuff. front struts will swap straight over and the rear shock and separate coil spring should swap straight over.

**BUT** I am not that familiar with these newer bodies. I say all this with my understanding of those set-ups, but i still think outback into legacy from same model year/body code should do the trick...

best! :smt023

[superu]

Washed for a project :twisted:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/11/DSCN9323JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/11/DSCN9317JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/11/DSCN9320JPG-1.jpg

Teaser:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/11/prepped20taped-1.jpg

New tires, and a more enticing teaser of project, read:new paint scheme :twisted:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/11/DSCN9472JPG-1.jpg

(couldn't wait until December for the 215x65 16" grabbers, so I went with the 27x8.50 14"s for now :smt012 )

['Buru in the Burgh]

yes!

[lord flashheart]

im so pumped on this shiz!

[tcsubywagon]

Hey guys. I'm new to the whole Subaru thing and already I'm in love. I have a 95 legacy l wagon and wondering if the 98 outback struts will still give me the lift. Also if they will give it the lift do that top hats match up? Thanks for the info guys!

[geckoboy86]

Struts will fit...dont know about how much lift. (I only have a 95 sedan)

[superu]

Straight swap, no probs.. My friend did his 95 wagon and got he same results...
Maybe Consider 98-01 forester springs for a touch more lift, but you'll need the FOR upper spring perches for the front.

Otherwise 98 OB stuff is a straight swap..


Hey guys. I'm new to the whole Subaru thing and already I'm in love. I have a 95 legacy l wagon and wondering if the 98 outback struts will still give me the lift. Also if they will give it the lift do that top hats match up? Thanks for the info guys!

[tcsubywagon]

Okay thanks for the info! I was reading on other sites about putting the forester struts and springs in, but others have said that that will put everything at too steep of angles and i would need to drop my trans, motor, dif, and so on...Sounds like to much work, then i ran across this post and i was pumped. If i can go with the forester struts without hassle, you said i need the forster spring perches, would those be attached to the strut assembly? They will be coming from the junk yard, and the other struts ive bought there have been a whole assembly, strut and spring. And will the forester top hats match up both front and rear? Im thinking about just doing the OB springs and struts for now...One last think...FOR is forester, OB is outback? Correct? And i have a BD wagon....Just making sure. Thanks for the help!

[superu]

Yes, good points and questions.

Here's a little more detail to explain some of this stuff ;)

I'm not that hip on body codes (i.e. BD, BG, etc.) but rather go by model year or generation.
you (as do I) have a second generation legacy (95-99).
First generation OB (yes, you're right in decifering my shorthand, OB = outback, FOR = forester) are typically 96-99 but the "outback" label was used on the 95 OB, which was NOT the OB we now now. It did NOT have the increased ride height and gearing, but really just a bumper and 2-tone paint scheme.

At any rate 1st gen OB = 96-99.

1st generation FOR is (in the US) 98-02

2nd gen forester is 03-08.

SO there are a few ways you can lift your gen 2 legacy using 1st gen OB and both generation FOR parts.

1st and easiest is get 1st gen OB struts (complete assemblies will save you the hassle of spring compressors).
2nd gen FOR complete strut assemblies (strut, spring, upper spring perches and top hats). NOT recommended on your rig
1st gen OB struts with 1st gen FOR springs, but using 1st gen FOR upper spring perches (in front) and top hats all around (I'm pretty sure OB top hats would be fine too, but safer is easier sometimes...)


So for the details:
If you have air tools, then just get struts (and tire rack has a pretty good price for new struts) would be fine and you could reuse your Legacy springs. I'm told Legacy and OB springs are the same (95-99).
OR complete, used, assemblies from a junk yard would be easy and cheap, but used...

Or for a touch more lift than all OB parts, use OB struts and 1st gen FOR springs.

The most lift on your rig would be 2nd gen FOR strut assembles, but you're right that would push you over the critical 2"taller than stock metric. At 2" and more over stock you should drop the driveline with all those OB spacers and cross members to keep your axle angles good. Dropping the drive line parts actually makes you lose a bit of what you gained by strut-lifting a NON-outback legacy.

1st gen FOR struts lift similar to 1st gen OB struts, but the lower spring perch is closer to the tire (it's a little further down the strut shaft when compared to the OB strut, I think to allow for the taller FOR spring) and will not afford as tall of a tire as OB struts do.

So, OB struts will push your rig about 1.5" taller than stock, add 1st gen FOR springs to that and you'll get .5" -.75" MORE lift than OB springs. 2nd gen FOR strut assemblies will lift an 96-99 OB 1.5", so that would theoretically lift your Legacy L 3" over stock. :shock:

So, bang for buck, go either all OB strut/spring or OB strut/1st gen FOR spring. Stay away from the 2nd gen FOR stuff.
OB struts will gain you 1.5" clearance, you can squeeze 27" tires under there, and with 1st gen FOR springs, you'll get more body lift above those big tires.
Thus 1.5" lift from struts, 27" tires are 1.5" taller radius than stock tires (185x70 14) and with FOR springs it might give you a little more putting you around 3+ MORE ground clearance than stock.

An easy way to think about this ground clearance is you can drive over a cinder block. I'm at about 9.5"-10" from the ground to my rear diff protector and I think 8.5" - 9" from the ground to my second cat.


I hope this makes sense and clears up the talk of forester this, outback that...
Checkout this thread: http://ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=111093
it's a 95 Legacy L wagon, lifted on 1st gen OB struts and 1st gen FOR springs.

cheers, :smt023
-mark-



Okay thanks for the info! I was reading on other sites about putting the forester struts and springs in, but others have said that that will put everything at too steep of angles and i would need to drop my trans, motor, dif, and so on...Sounds like to much work, then i ran across this post and i was pumped. If i can go with the forester struts without hassle, you said i need the forster spring perches, would those be attached to the strut assembly? They will be coming from the junk yard, and the other struts ive bought there have been a whole assembly, strut and spring. And will the forester top hats match up both front and rear? Im thinking about just doing the OB springs and struts for now...One last think...FOR is forester, OB is outback? Correct? And i have a BD wagon....Just making sure. Thanks for the help!

[tcsubywagon]

Sweet! Lots of info in there...exactly what I was looking for!! Thanks for that info. Will hopefully be getting the struts next weekend and they should be on by the following week! Ill keep you guys updated...hopefully some pics too! Its starting to snow. Tonight is the first night I've driven this in snow and even with bald tires (and I mean radials poking thru bald) I'm impressed with How it does in the snow! Can't wait to get some big meaty winter forces on here!

[i<3mysubi]

Hey i just got the shocks from a '99 outback to put on my 95 legacy. do i need any modifications to the other suspension parts? like sway bars, bushings, steering parts, etc?

[superu]

Nope!
You'll need a jack, jack stands, a 19mm socket (and breaker bar)and combo wrench for the 2 strut bolts and (I think) a 14 mm socket for the three top hat nuts per strut, and a hack saw or end nippers, something to cut the tab open, which hold the brake lines in the struts.

It's an unbolt, swap, and bolt-on instant lift. You can zip-tie the brake lines into the tabs, or cut, bend insert and re-bend those tabs on your OB struts.

Good luck and add pictures (do you have a build thread on this project?) Do some before then after measureing of ground clearances. ground to rear diff, ground to "Y" pipe and ground to cat are good measures, also ground to top of fender and hub (center of wheel) to top of fender0.

cheers,
-mw-


Hey i just got the shocks from a '99 outback to put on my 95 legacy. do i need any modifications to the other suspension parts? like sway bars, bushings, steering parts, etc?

[lord flashheart]

Hey i just got the shocks from a '99 outback to put on my 95 legacy. do i need any modifications to the other suspension parts? like sway bars, bushings, steering parts, etc?
Hey man. You finally made a post! Time to make a thread in the members rides section. Show off your new ride.

Mark, this is one of my closest friends. He is helping me put my engine in. I showed him your car and he was hooked..(wish my car had that effect)

[what huh]

What kind of MPG are you getting out of that set up, with those big tires?

[superu]

like 17-19ish city 22-26ish HWY (correcting with 5% error from my ODO)


What kind of MPG are you getting out of that set up, with those big tires?

[lord flashheart]

Hey mark so me and 'I<3mysubi' put outback shocks on the front and are going to put the rear on tomorrow, but his wheels are super clambered now. Would changing the sway bar help or just an alignment?

Ps are you coming to any rallies soon?

[superu]

Hey mark so me and 'I<3mysubi' put outback shocks on the front and are going to put the rear on tomorrow, but his wheels are super clambered now. Would changing the sway bar help or just an alignment?

Ps are you coming to any rallies soon?

It's just the extra height from the struts that's making the wheels all crooked. He WILL need an alignment when it's all done, probably a camber kit as well (special amber adjusting bolts with a camming knob on the bolt's shaft, to adjust camber) He can leave the sway bar, that won't affect alignment, just handling characteristics.. Also, when the springs compress a touch after driving, that'll settle things out a bit too.

Every time I jack my car off the ground and lower it back, I gain like 1.5-2 inches of lift!!! Then it settles again :(

I'm going to try to make the Feb rally, I hear March 26-27 will be a western states championship! It'd be cool to make that too, but probably not :cry:

On another note, I changed my rear sway bar to a stock outback rear sway (11mm stock legacy to 16 mm stock OB).
Ooh my, I love the difference in handling!! Much stiffer rear end, flatter body roll and less understeer. :smt023

Does your buddy have a member ride thread? I'll look.

cheers!

[lord flashheart]

Will the stock hight of a legacy support that swaybar

[superu]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
When you get the sway bar, grab the end links and the brackets with bushings (the bushings account for a thicker bar that your factory legacy or LSi bushings won't) that hold the bar to the body. You'll see them when you get under the car.

Are you thinking of this for your new sedan project? Get an OB front bar too, I think they're 18mm whereas the legacy is like 15.


Will the stock hight of a legacy support that swaybar

[lord flashheart]

Yeah I'm going to the junk used in a couple hours to snag a 5mt, diff and sway bars. They have a 05 legacy sway bar. And I was wondering if that would fit as well.

[lord flashheart]

Nevermind. It won't work. Found this..http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.p ... 34646.html (http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/swaybar-faq-134646.html)

[superu]

i'll spend some time going through this thread, it starts off with some good info! Nice find!

But yeah, you'll want 97-99 outback shtuff for your 95.

cheers


Nevermind. It won't work. Found this..http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.p ... 34646.html (http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/swaybar-faq-134646.html)

[lord flashheart]

Yeah bryson, (I<3mysubi) and i went and snagged a couple ob rear sways and I got a few other things. Mount em this week.

[superu]

installed gen 1 OB rear sway bar and added SVX springs in front
taller and stiff!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/P1010344JPG-1.jpg


gen 2 OB front spring (a touch taller than gen 1 OB and a touch stiffer
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/0320OB20H420front20coil20heightJPG-1.jpg
SVX spring TALLER and STIFFER
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/9420SVX20H620front20coil20heightJPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/SVX20front20coils20leftJPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/SVX20front20coils20detail20leftJPG-1.jpg
YEAOWSAH!

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/SVX20front20FOR20rear20bJPG-1.jpg

just me and a snow cat.... perfect!!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/P1010389JPG-1.jpg


FYI on OB tophats and their bearings
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/P1010340JPG-1.jpg


and front upper spring perches .... why you can't use the SVX perch ....
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/P1010338JPG-1.jpg

(although must use gen 1 FOR upper perch b/c of decreasing radial diameter of upper coil)
gen 2 (and 1) OB upper coil diameter
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/9720OB20front20coil20top20diameterJPG-1.jpg

SVX upper coil diameter (similar to gen 1 FOR spring (FYI: also gives a little lift over OB springs)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/9420SVX20front20coil20top20diameterJPG-1.jpg


nice lift and strength to hold up 140 lbs of bumper and skidplate
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/P1010393JPG-1.jpg




washed and new pix taken. . . . .
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/P1010460JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/P1010474JPG-1.jpg


This is about all I have to show of the rear sway bar:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/P1010486JPG-1.jpg

I went from 15MM stock Legacy to 18MM stock outback... NICE difference in handling and drifting control, but it does affect rear suspension articulation some :smt005







that's all for now :smt027 ;)

[TGX4776]

everytime i see you car i want to lift my bd instead of holding out for a seccond gen wagon

[95USsubaru]

would you like to buy a set of JDM head lights?

[superu]

tee hee :cool:

do it! Why wait when you can modify today? Those second gens are so heavy anyway :smt020


everytime i see you car i want to lift my bd instead of holding out for a seccond gen wagon



but you're right, wagons are nice

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

are you running stock brakes and rotors? I am def. stealing your 2 tone paint scheme! lol

[superu]

would you like to buy a set of JDM head lights?

donated? I'll cover shipping ;) :smt023


my headlights are kind of a touchy point, thank you for poking at it!

what all is needed in their install? Are they ballast HID lights or just a straight swap projector?
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/imagesqtbnANd9GcQLQ4vK5oL8jDIfENYdpmj03d-1.jpg

wuderyouaskin' $




Oh, I'd also take a donated front and or rear strut tower brace for anyone else out there looking to help out my build. . .
maybe an EG33 or frankenmotor

[superu]

Yeah, stock front disks and stock '90 legacy wagon rear disks (my sedan was stock drum rear *thumbs down*)

are you running stock brakes and rotors?

sahweet!! satin black , yo!
best with dark rims too


I am def. stealing your 2 tone paint scheme! lol

[lord flashheart]

damn dude thats sick!!

[95USsubaru]

would you like to buy a set of JDM head lights?

donated? I'll cover shipping ;) :smt023


my headlights are kind of a touchy point, thank you for poking at it!

what all is needed in their install? Are they ballast HID lights or just a straight swap projector?
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/imagesqtbnANd9GcQLQ4vK5oL8jDIfENYdpmj03d-1.jpg

wuderyouaskin' $




Oh, I'd also take a donated front and or rear strut tower brace for anyone else out there looking to help out my build. . .
maybe an EG33 or frankenmotor

welllllll donated i cant really do....... lol im sorry man i just noticed you didnt have the projectors. however all of the connections are going to come with it. no HID's or any thing tho

[superu]

welllllll donated i cant really do....... lol im sorry man i just noticed you didnt have the projectors. however all of the connections are going to come with it. no HID's or any thing tho

How much are you hoping to get for them?

[95USsubaru]

150+shipping

[superu]

150+shipping

Hmm, not from this guy, sorry.

But thanks for catching my interest :wink:

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

I'm basically making a replica of your car! haha Except the front bumper, roof rack, and maybe some of the parts you painted black. But yea people will think its yours on the East Coast.

[95USsubaru]

150+shipping

Hmm, not from this guy, sorry.

But thanks for catching my interest :wink:


lol no worries man

[superu]

I'm basically making a replica of your car! haha Except the front bumper, roof rack, and maybe some of the parts you painted black. But yea people will think its yours on the East Coast.

Thanks!!


It'll be a cool
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010678JPG-1.jpg

Here, try to replicate this some time :smt002 :smt026

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010642JPG-1.jpg


throwin' some mud, UP WAAAAY UP
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_vV3XhlpDEVQ/TU-rb5FdD5I/AAAAAAAAPqc/ER5Lw4XQ0wE/P1010656.JPG
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010679JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010687JPG-1.jpg

Desert camo:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010694JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010695JPG-1.jpg

Ooh, and in case anyone wants to know, this is what 320 lbs of dried clay looks like when affixed to a car:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010706JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010712JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010714JPG-1.jpg

[Danny-G]

If you haven't washed it yet, just clean the lights and windows off and leave it muddy. I love the amount of dirt on the car too. I might try that look myself someday.

[lord flashheart]

Interesting new paint scheme. What do you call it?

[Reason]

Damn dude.... videos next time!!

[superu]

If you haven't washed it yet, just clean the lights and windows off and leave it muddy. I love the amount of dirt on the car too. I might try that look myself someday.

Yeah, 320 pounds of dried clay is bad for fuel economy ;)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010707JPG-1.jpg

I usually leave it dirty for a few days, but this time I had to clean it right away, lest I NEVER be able to get it off!
Clay is WAAAAY different from sand.
$26 dollars and about an hour (not the difference in lighting ;) at the car wash got me this far... but there's still a bunch in the wheels and I don't even know about the under carriage... I fear I may have a layer of pottery encasing the exhaust :neutral:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010715JPG-1.jpg

[superu]

Interesting new paint scheme. What do you call it?

:smt005
textured Moab desert camo

[Reason]

You car is a dirty little whore lol

[superu]

Damn dude.... videos next time!!

Roger that, hopefully these work :smt026

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zEGVCc3cOOvcBNr1ccZhnk3fROjxB-WgCKzwlUAqCh0?feat=directlink
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010657JPG-1.jpg
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5dPmzFAR4Ksnn6HFr2EFvU3fROjxB-WgCKzwlUAqCh0?feat=directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/bZuGhWPoOsv3a3GSyJTrdE3fROjxB-WgCKzwlUAqCh0?feat=directlink

[superu]

You car is a dirty little whore lol


tee hee :lol:

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

I'm basically making a replica of your car! haha Except the front bumper, roof rack, and maybe some of the parts you painted black. But yea people will think its yours on the East Coast.
Thanks!!
Here, try to replicate this some time
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
That the bar has been set. IT'S ON!!! hahaha

[Navi271]

haha, desert camo! Where'd your car go?!

[chrish8r]

lovin the paint scheme and that bumper, but i love my outback fogs too much......

[superu]

Prepping for the final cleaning
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010788JPG-1.jpg

An additional 80-100 lbs chiseled off the undercarriage.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010809JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/P1010811JPG-1.jpg

Yeah, i probably won't be doing that kind of "muddin'" again ;)

[Danny-G]

So was there a layer of pottery encasing the exhaust?

[superu]

So was there a layer of pottery encasing the exhaust?

:smt005

OOHH yeah!

Still a bunch crammed up on top of the exhaust heat shield, between the drive shaft and the shield.

[lord flashheart]

so did u just take a hammer and go to town or what?

[superu]

so did u just take a hammer and go to town or what?

LOL
mostly scraper and screwdriver.

I think all told it was about 400 pounds of mud!

[lord flashheart]

holy crap! thats nuts!

[TGX4776]

ok so i had an revelation at work yesterday. I am gunna switch it up and go for this as it'll be cheaper. Lifted offroad BD's FTW!

[superu]

ok so i had an revelation at work yesterday. I am gunna switch it up and go for this as it'll be cheaper. Lifted offroad BD's FTW!

SWEETNESS!!!! :smt023

for your outback I think the best set-up is gen 2 (02-08) complete Forester strut assemblies. Probably easy to find a good set of take-off on NASIOC. un-bolt, bolt-on insta-lift!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/18614d1296841558usingforestspringsstruts-1.jpg

WOOP WOOP!!

[superu]

Added some custom vinyl a couple weeks ago.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/04/P1020325JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/04/P1020323JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/04/P1020320JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/04/P1020322JPG-1.jpg

[Soul Shinobi]

Haha awesome. Where'd you get it? I can see you standing on the bumper in the reflection.

[superu]

Haha awesome. Where'd you get it? I can see you standing on the bumper in the reflection.

custom made, yo!! Still have a few more tweeks to make it up to spec, but it's a good prototype.

lol, yeah, I noticed the reflection later... The price for shooting in flat light at noon ;)

ooh well.

[superu]

sure sits tall without all that weight of a transmission, rear diff and exhaust!!!

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/05/P1020999JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/05/P1030001JPG-1.jpg

:grin: :wink: :smt005

[DarkPhoenix]

^^^ Woot!! Cheap lifts FTW!

[lord flashheart]

Wait a sec... if it sits so high when the transmission and diff is out, that means there is not a transmission in the car. Which means u took it out. Which means something. What's going on here?
Dual range?

[superu]

Wait a sec... if it sits so high when the transmission and diff is out, that means there is not a transmission in the car. Which means u took it out. Which means something. What's going on here?

I got an OB tranny.
Remember when I was going to come up there to JY for a tranny this weekend, well, I found one in Grand Junction (which is like 1.5 hours from Moab) from a 99 outback limited. So I got that 2ish weeks ago and have been swapping.

So, now I have 4.11s AND reverse.... once I finish details like the clutch and hill holder adjustment and narrow down a clunking from the front driver's side (I suspect we may have separated or crushed a half shaft in the removal process) I'll get to drive again. :smt026 :smt026

AND, I will have done a transmission swap FTW?!!


Dual range?

Sadly no D/R (yet), nothing that cool. :smt009

I'm still waiting to see if YOUcan get a D/R from your coolio sources :smt002
and i have a couple feelers out with folks from Aussie land.

[lord flashheart]

I haven't found a dual range with a ej period.

[superu]

I haven't found a dual range with a ej period.

Those D/R came in outbacks, legacies, foresters, imprezas, pretty much everywhere but the U.S....
I'd prefer one from a Forester or one from an OB with EJ25 would work Best would be 97-98 forester.

but, yeah it's tough. From what I hear, most importers don't deal with the NA stuff, so it's hard to get those guys to look for one for you...
Please keep checking with your sources for JDM engines though.

laters!

[superu]

AT LAST, my question has been answered! My research, the info and number crunching from others and my suspicions are confirmed!

:smt026 :smt026 4.11s are great with 27" tires!!! :smt026 :smt026
I don't really notice a difference in the seat, but I sure do in the shifting, more accurately the LACK of downshifting on grades I couldn't pull previously without downshifting in the stock 3.90 FD.

EJ22 with 3.90 FD (turning 27" ATs), 70 MPH @ 3000 RPM (Actual speed 75MPH but VERY weak 5th gear with respect to hills!)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/05/Legacy_70mph_3000RPM-1.jpg

EJ22 with 4.11 FD (99 OB 5MT), 65 MPH @ 3000 RPM
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/05/411s2065mph20300020rpm-1.jpg

EJ22 with 4.11 FD (99 OB 5MT), 70 MPH @ 3250 RPM
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/05/411s2070mph20325020rpm-1.jpg

EJ22 with 4.11 FD (99 OB 5MT), 75 MPH @ 3500 RPM
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/05/_Preview_-2.jpg

EJ22 with 4.11 FD (99OB 5MT), 80 @ 3750ish
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/05/_Preview_-3.jpg

[superu]

Mad awesome custom-ness!!!!
reflective BLACK vinyl!! sick!! :twisted:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/06/picasioncom_ebeeb00237b2ea79585ec49d48c7-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/06/picasioncom_c5e01b77b0383d58f254587064a6-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/06/Reflective252520AWDgif-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/06/picasioncom_9e91652f60a81714c0bc11f49884-1.jpg


AND some action!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPTnYGy3 ... detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPTnYGy3Oes&feature=player_detailpage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPTnYGy3 ... detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPTnYGy3Oes&feature=player_detailpage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W3qc6v8 ... detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W3qc6v8dCk&feature=player_detailpage)

Long Canyon in Moab....going down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuyGGvhu ... detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuyGGvhuqGM&feature=player_detailpage)

and climbing back up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GatyT97q ... detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GatyT97qZSE&feature=player_detailpage)

[superu]

Subaru, continuing to venture where only trucks have gone before. . .

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/07/P1030322JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/07/P1030321JPG-1.jpg

[Soul Shinobi]

Doin' us proud superu!

[superu]

(revisit)
New custom vinyl
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030225JPG-1.jpg

aka REFLECTIVE black vinyl
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/06/Reflective252520AWDgif-2.jpg

NEW for late summer 2011!!
new loaded calipers, painted
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/07/P1030510JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/07/P1030511JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/07/P1030513JPG-1.jpg

finally opened the stock 5MT with the bad reverse
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030578JPG-1.jpg

and found.....
the good side of the REV gear
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030593JPG-1.jpg

and the bad part
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030594JPG-1.jpg

Let's recap

good
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030595JPG-1.jpg
bad
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030596JPG-1.jpg

It's pretty cool inside there!!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030600JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030606JPG-1.jpg

Viscous coupling aka center diff
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030608JPG-1.jpg

That's F-ing bad-a$$!!!!!
The front pinon shaft (which comes from the center diff, going forward to the front diff) is INSIDE the output shaft going out the rear of mid case into the center diff

INSIDE!!!!
(splines under middle finger are tranny output to center diff, splines under index finger are input, of the pinion shaft, from the center diff, going forward to the front diff's ring gear via the pinion)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030613JPG-1.jpg

New KC fog lamps mounted
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030526JPG-1.jpg

[Soul Shinobi]

How did you eff up reverse? Take some more center diff pics and tell me where to weld so I can do a RWD conversion haha :grin:

[lord flashheart]

^you can weld pretty much anywhere that stop the teeth from moving. we did a RWD conversion on my buddys (i<3mysubi) legacy turbo. we welded the teeth together in 4 places. then took the front diff n shit out. its pretty simple i know there are 'how to's out there

[superu]

What he said ^^ ;)

Take some more center diff pics and tell me where to weld so I can do a RWD conversion haha :grin:



How did you eff up reverse?

NO idea!!


here are center diff pix...
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030616JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030582JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030581JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030579JPG-2.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030580JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030608JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030611JPG-2.jpg

those splines (outer and inner)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030612JPG-1.jpg
:smt017
mesh with these splines to spin the center diff carrier (from the middle finger splines) and the rear drive shaft, then the inner splines mesh (with the index finger splines) and spin the front drive shaft INSIDE the main output shaft
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030613JPG-1.jpg

via the magic part
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030609JPG-1.jpg

these are the center diff spider gears to weld up
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1030610JPG-2.jpg

[Soul Shinobi]

Haha, awesome! Welding the center diff looks doable without even dismantling it.

EDIT: That viscous coupling from the center diff looks discolored; overheated? I hear they're not reliable.

[superu]

Haha, awesome! Welding the center diff looks doable without even dismantling it.

Yeah, I'm sure that's why Subaru put those access ports in the carrier ;)


EDIT: That viscous coupling from the center diff looks discolored; overheated? I hear they're not reliable.

It still worked fine but I suppose it could be cooked.
Rally crosses can't be gentle on the fluid nor the time I was romping all over it in the snow... I got the AWD light to come on that time :shock:

[superu]

wired KC fogs (blown bulb, suky!)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/8b48fbe8b366a12593aec4f95e2af85egif-1.jpg


Installed map-light unit :smt023
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1040373JPG-1.jpg

cut headliner
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1040371JPG-1.jpg
the hole sucks because I'm a hasty dumb-ass :smt012

Threaded mounting holes present
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1040372JPG-1.jpg

Tied in to dome light lead
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/P1040370JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/08/0540ec75ac31afcb44c2e248280147e6-1.gif

[chrish8r]

looking good. sweet way to put the pictures in to show the difference

[lord flashheart]

your car reminds me of something me and bj (screen name i<3mysubi) used to say to people.
we'd be like" going four wheelin in this baby"
other person: "isnt that just a station wagon"
us: "yeah, but its 4WD"
other person: "you mean all wheel drive"
us: " ten bucks says you cant tell me the difference"
other person"......."
us: "exactly"

[superu]

your car reminds me of something me and bj (screen name i<3mysubi) used to say to people.
we'd be like" going four wheelin in this baby"
other person: "isnt that just a station wagon"
us: "yeah, but its 4WD"
other person: "you mean all wheel drive"
us: " ten bucks says you cant tell me the difference"
other person"......."
us: "exactly"

^^ :smt023 ^^



But you and I do. . . . :smt027
That said, just think of the capability of a Subaru, full time AWD 5MT (standard i.e. 50:50 split until VC slippage) and rear CLSD, but WITH a low range!!!!! :smt071
I know I know, the Aussies know all about it, but not so many here in the U.S. do.

It's funny how the car parts stores labelled my wife's old 93 IMP 4EAT as 4WD, but my 95 LEG is AWD... Not even the computer parts look-up systems knows the difference. sheesh

[superu]

upgraded rear diff.








wait for it. . . .

















CLSD!!!!

Take 40-tooth (i.e. 4.11 axle ratio, yo!) ring gear from open carrier on left and install on LS carrier on right
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/0930111209_01-1.jpg

put that crown gear from this
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030494JPG-1.jpg

And put it on this
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030493JPG-1.jpg

to make it look like this
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030495JPG-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/0930111247-1.jpg

grind the little bumps from the inside of the case to make LS unit fit in diff
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030498JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030500JPG-1.jpg

Then you have SWEETNESS!!!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030499JPG-1.jpg

You must have side covers (and shims) from door LS diff! This LS unit makes it a male rear diff requiring rear half shafts that are female inner CV with male outer CV (aka 1st gen legacy half shafts).

Then the diff's gear oil refill WITH the LSD conditioner (very important), plus help from the little guy!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030502JPG-1.jpg



Now I'm running a CLSD with 4.11s and a 5MT with the mudrat baja bumper, 3+ inches over stock (OB struts, FOR springs rear, SVX springs front), LGT steering rack, OB RSB, 27" Grabber AT2s, and the want for a serious off road test drive !

:smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026

[Soul Shinobi]

Oh nice! That made my morning. :grin:

[i<3mysubi]

Mark!
i realize i have been neglecting poor SL-I.
i am super stoked on your car, and i think the next project( after i sell my legacy and outback) will be a lifted impreza.

this guy goes to my school and we hang out a lot ( he is on the hood, i am not the other guy)
chalkboard paint. and he bolted a tire mount to his roof, haha. forester struts. billeted aluminum risers, 1 inch. wheel adapters 5 X 100 to 5X 4.5" truck 15" steelies with 0 offset. BFG all terrains 27"X10.50R15. cut wheel wells, jeep cherokee bolted on fenders(not pictured)
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/199960_10150123193913349_760663348_6470826_8309319_n.jpg


i really wanna do something similar, i am getting way pumped on lifted subaru's again.

remind me what strut, spring, tophat combination you have?

[i<3mysubi]

P.S. soul,
for my RWD conversion, we took out the center diff. pretty easy and welded in 4 spots. in the places where the arrow are, on one side then the other
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/ScreenShot20111007at101617PMpng-1.jpg

[Soul Shinobi]

I see, looks easy enough. What'd you do about front axles?

[superu]

Mark!
i realize i have been neglecting poor SL-I.
i am super stoked on your car, and i think the next project( after i sell my legacy and outback) will be a lifted impreza.

Lifted impreazas ARE THE $#!+!!!!!
I really like lifted imps/WRXs better than legacys or even outbacks...


this guy goes to my school and we hang out a lot ( he is on the hood, i am not the other guy)
chalkboard paint. and he bolted a tire mount to his roof, haha. forester struts. billeted aluminum risers, 1 inch. wheel adapters 5 X 100 to 5X 4.5" truck 15" steelies with 0 offset. BFG all terrains 27"X10.50R15. cut wheel wells, jeep cherokee bolted on fenders(not pictured)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/


i really wanna do something similar, i am getting way pumped on lifted subaru's again.

remind me what strut, spring, tophat combination you have?

That's a nice lookin' impreza!!
Hmm, 27x10.5s?!! Woah!!
I'll bet that throws the mud!! ;)

Yeah, get out of that tarmac leggo and get back into the lifted stuff!!! :grin:

2nd gen fozzie struts all the way!!

[superu]

I see, looks easy enough. What'd you do about front axles?

Yeah?

Did you pull the front diff, but leave the pinon gear and shaft (to keep the balance inside the output shaft going into the center diff), then cap the front axle ports and pull the front axles?

or what?

[Soul Shinobi]

This is me researching, haha. Pulling the front diff sounds like a good idea to loose some weight, but more work to split the case. I know some people leave front axle stubs in, spinning freely I assume.

[hansvonaxion]

When I was young there were heaps of slammed WRX's where I lived and I remember saying if I ever had one I'd be different and go rally style - raised, high prifile tyres etc... and now you guys are doing it. Respect.

[i<3mysubi]

so here are some answers to the rWD conversion

as for front axles.
we cut the boots and pulled the axles out of the "wheel side" but we left the bearing race with the splines and nut IN THE WHEEL, to hold the wheel bearing in. so basically it was an empty end of the cv axle. i should take some pics. the axles were essentially sacrificed for this, but the bearings were bad anyway.

so then we welded the "center diff" as shown.

we were going to take out the front diff. we decided it was going to save 15 pounds. but in the end we left it in.
now you could just let the gear still drive it. the diff would still spin, but equal power would go to the rear, so no power would be lost by leaving it in.
however, we took of that crown gear, the one that you replaced mark, so you could have 4.11s. it saved about 5-6 pounds and it allowed the front diff to just sit in there, and not be driven by anything. so the splines on the diff dont even spin.
then we didnt have to worry about making plugs or buying them.

it works pretty good. and more reliable than AWD, because essentally you will break the rear tires loose before you break any tranny internals.

i will try to take some pictures

EDIT: and what would be really sweet , you could leave the full front diff in, have the welded diff, and put front axles in. then you would have 50/50 power split and equal wheel spin all the time. would not be ideal for a DD but a track or off road car haha


one more thing, ya those are 27 X 10.5's the spacers and truck rims allow him to clear the perches no probs. i dont know if you can see in the picture but his rear wheel well is cut clear to the rear door. and his wheel adapters really stick the wheels out!!so he flings some mud! that is why he just put cherokee fenders on....and to pass inspection

[superu]

some fun on the Willow Springs road near Arches NP.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030559JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030560JPG-1.jpg

FLEXXX :smt025
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030561JPG-1.jpg

Reduced suspension sag w/ OB RSW, yo! :roll:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P1030563JPG-2.jpg


:smt027

[i<3mysubi]

have you thought about taking out your sway bars? you would get a little more flex, but not good flex at high speeds haha

[Soul Shinobi]

I've heard of people taking out the endlinks for offroading, and even rallying. Might need to remove the bar too, not sure if it'll be too much in the way to just tie up.

[superu]

@ I>3mysubi & Soul Shinobi

I kind of thought of quick disconnects for the sway bar for off-roading but never really looked into it, but I LOVE the RSB for rally and "spirited driving"
With the OB RSB but still the short legacy brackets, etc. It's kind of a PITA to line up bolts, so I don't think it would be too practical to go the route of removing ewnd links or disconnecting the stock hardware...thus maybe quick disconnects would be the way to go.

[Soul Shinobi]

You still have the Legacy body mounts? The stock mounts aren't too strong, and you might tear them with that improper fitment (a lot of people weld small reinforcements to them). I think I have some Outback rear swaybar body mounts if you want them.

[superu]

You still have the Legacy body mounts? The stock mounts aren't too strong, and you might tear them with that improper fitment (a lot of people weld small reinforcements to them). I think I have some Outback rear swaybar body mounts if you want them.

Yeah I'm still running with the stock leggo RSB mounts and links. I do have the taller OB mounts but didn't swap them over (yet).

So far so good, so I'm not too worried about busting stuff...until I do. :wink:

[superu]

roof rack remounted for winter (spare mounting to follow)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/1107110822_01-1.jpg

kid prepped for winter too
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/1107110821_01-1.jpg

[superu]

modified the rear deck with DIY LATCH anchors
Door latch bar for the center and Fixe climbing anchors (ring removed) for the sides

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/P1040974JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/P1040975JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/P1040981JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/P1040978JPGglUS-1.jpg

[lord flashheart]

Looks frosty and cold. But at the same time... you know cool.

[superu]

Looks frosty and cold. But at the same time... you know cool.

:smt023 yo!

[superu]

A nightmare to the lowered crowd and a wet dream to the lifted crowd.

http://youtu.be/cVk2YLsqDMM

[superu]

Mo of the same

http://youtu.be/zJxMMgE_BN0
http://youtu.be/nCQA0OG7TSs

[chrish8r]

Loved the video but it was posted like 6 different times....idk if you are aware

[Soul Shinobi]

That was awesome!

[superu]

Loved the video but it was posted like 6 different times....idk if you are aware

there are 3 VERY similar ones, then three cut and edited ones, so I need to privatize the first raw set.

thanks though. :smt023

[superu]

Just putting up some clearance numbers so I know I have them written somewhere...

the set-up:
95 legacy,
99 OB KYB-GR2/Excel-G struts,
99 FOR front rear springs,
94 SVX H-6 front springs (with gen 1 FOR upper perches),
27x8.5 General Grabber AT2s
99 OB trailing arm bracket
99 OB RSB,
96 LGT steering rack


Ground to fender:
FL 29 1/8" (740mm)
FR 29 1/2" (749mm)
RL 29" (736mm)
RR 29" (736mm)

Hub to fender:
FL 17 1/8" (435mm)
FR 17 1/2" (444mm)
RL 16 1/2" (419mm)
RR 16 1/2" (419mm)

Ground to skid plate (at engine crossmember jacking point, 1" lowered so skid protects exhaust): 9 1/4" (235mm)
Ground to rear cat (the lowest one): 9.0" (229mm)
Ground to rear diff protector (approx 1" lower than diff itself): 9 1/2" (241mm)
Ground to front pinch weld (behind front tire, @ jacking point): 10" (254mm)
Ground to body (above pinch weld): 10 3/4" (273mm)
Ground to rear pinch weld (in front of rear tire @ jacking point): 10 1/8" (257mm)
Ground to rear body (above pinch weld): 11" (279mm)

[i<3mysubi]

^ Very useful stuff

[superu]

Roof rack [re]installed for winter,
Here's my spare mounting system on the rack:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050319JPG-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050320JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050321JPG-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050322JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050323JPG-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050324JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050325JPG-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050327JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050318JPG-1.jpg

[superu]

http://youtu.be/cXWHNBr8AoQ

[superu]

RE: this climb in Moab, Baby Lion's Back

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/DSC04900JPG-1.jpg

Here's a ride-along on Baby Lion's Back from 2 days ago.

http://youtu.be/PWv41kS8XyY

I'll post and outside video whenever I can get someone to go play with me ;)

[Soul Shinobi]

:shock: I pooped a little.

[Wiscon_Mark]

That's pretty damn cool.

You need locking diffs!

[d1giPhux]

Nice video man! What did you record it with? Cool scenery!

[superu]

That's pretty damn cool.

You need locking diffs!

THX!
I have an RX's rear CLSD made into a 4.11 final drive LSD, I'd like a VLSD front and a locking center would rock!!

[superu]

Nice video man! What did you record it with? Cool scenery!

THX!

A Panasonic Lumix point-and-shoot (DMC-FH20)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/51pvLIvb6ZL_SL500_AA300_-1.jpg
plus the youtube music upload

Yes, the country around here is breathtaking, to say the least!!! I could go on and on and on, but that would be unfair, so for an idea here's the dump last December.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/https://sl-i.net/FORUM/

America's second most scenic landfill! (not sure which is the most scenic ;)

[superu]

Mo videos of Baby Lion's back, these from outside the car :smt002




The approach and climb:
http://youtu.be/M628HPhAWHI

The steeper angle on the backside drop (no contact, yo!! :smt023 ), plus the icy pond exit :shock:
http://youtu.be/rPOViz2vq3s

I'll probably do an audio swap, eventually :smt002 .

[Soul Shinobi]

That pitching back and forth on the climb was scary, but the steep part of the decline (0:36) was even scarier! You sir know how to Subaru.

[superu]

That pitching back and forth on the climb was scary, but the steep part of the decline (0:36) was even scarier! You sir know how to Subaru.

:smt023 Thanks!

Yeah, the bouncing on the climb is more than I'd prefer but once I get my dual range, that'll be a thing of the past :wink:

Mo pix
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050460JPG-1.jpg
http://youtu.be/M628HPhAWHI

steeper exit http://youtu.be/rPOViz2vq3s
Aftermath of crushing ice in the exit pond :smt027
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050462JPG-1.jpg

Hell's Revenge entry climb
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050464JPG-1.jpg
http://youtu.be/zlAGAwmzvbI

This is how I roll in Moab, coffee coffee all the way, hot, cold, pressed, espresso-ed, even canned (but non of that Starbucks crap :smt018 ), and non of that red bull crap neither, COFFEE!!!
:smt005

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050469JPGglUS-1.jpg

and the camera man with kid in tow!! :smt023
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050468JPGglUS-1.jpg

[Soul Shinobi]

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050468JPGglUS-1.jpg
"Coffee?" "Coffee." *nods of approval all around*

Cool kid. :grin:

[superu]

Nice video man! What did you record it with? Cool scenery!

Some more for ya! Enjoy!! :cool:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xJfVyqf1jCo/Tu6sLj7p11I/AAAAAAAAWE8/nyfdcM7ijJs/s640/P1050476.JPG?gl=US
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050475JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050470JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050471JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/P1050467JPGglUS-1.jpg
^ wanna play the Spot-the-suby game?! ^ :smt002

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

wow that view is amazing!

[r3v_v3ng3]

modified the rear deck with DIY LATCH anchors
Door latch bar for the center and Fixe climbing anchors (ring removed) for the sides

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/P1040974JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/P1040975JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/P1040981JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/P1040978JPGglUS-1.jpg


I need to do this for my car since I like to put my daughter in the middle. Sometimes when i do a tight turn she tips over (not good) I need to do this on the rear driver side, since the pass side already have one. Thanks for the idea!

[superu]

modified the rear deck with DIY LATCH anchors
Door latch bar for the center and Fixe climbing anchors (ring removed) for the sides (but you could use the climbing anchors for all three as the mounting is there for all three).

There are captive nuts under the deck (you can see them from the trunk), and the deck board already has holes above the nuts, so I just punched a small drill bit through the deck fabric and bolted the anchor down.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/11/P1040978JPGglUS-1.jpg

I need to do this for my car since I like to put my daughter in the middle. Sometimes when i do a tight turn she tips over (not good) I need to do this on the rear driver side, since the pass side already have one. Thanks for the idea!

Yeah, glad to share. :smt026
I'd suggest the Fixe anchor (and cut off the ring) for all three spots, but I had already done the center with a door catch-bar before I thought to try (or really noticed) the captive nuts already mounted (access from the trunk) under the rear deck.
With kid #2 coming in the next 3 weeks or so, I had to make anchors for the sides to fit 2 car seats in the legacy,
sooooo, necessity being the mother of invention :smt002

I got these, then cut off the ring
http://www.fixehardware.com/ring_anchors.htm

but, they sell the anchors ringless. . .
http://www.fixehardware.com/hangers-463.htm

:smt026

[r3v_v3ng3]

thanks for the link!

[superu]

thanks for the link!

:smt023

Or go by any climbing or mountaineering shop, they'll have 'em too.

[superu]

Added DIY LATCH anchors to the back seat. These will complete the system, perfectly complementing the deck LATCH previously installed.
I pulled the bolts, then had to grind out the anchor's 10 mm hole to accept the car's 12 mm bolt
I used Fixe climbing anchors with rap rings (load bearing to 18 Kn or 4046.51 pound force, or 18,000 joules/meter)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/032040_300x373gif-1.jpg

I attached the anchors to the seat belt anchors under the rear seat.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030807JPG-1.jpg

The outer seat belt anchors have a captive nut on a plate (visible in the rear wheel well), so I assume the inner anchors are similar
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030821JPG-1.jpg

I chose the outer seatbelt anchor as it's load bearing and structural for shock loads, when compared to the seat mounting point.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030820JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030822JPG-1.jpg

Here's the left rear belt anchor which also holds the rear center belt
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030811JPG-1.jpg

removed
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030815JPG-1.jpg

separated
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030816JPG-1.jpg

Inverted the seatbelt's positioning bracket, to accommodate the anchor in appropriate orientation
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030817JPG-1.jpg

assembled maintaining orientation of each belt/buckle with the climbing anchor in good orientation for clipping a LATCH belt
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030818JPG-1.jpg

mounted
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030819JPG-1.jpg

seat in place, showing access to anchor ring
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030823JPG-1.jpg

spread belts showing LATCH belt anchored to ring
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030824JPG-1.jpg

shown how well the system tucks away
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/01/P1030825JPG-1.jpg

Fixe climbing anchor with ring anchor $5.99 (x4)
a little grinder action, and now I can anchor 2 car seats (2 yr old toddler, and NEW baby boy (born 1/23/2012)) in the sedan, WITH the modern LATCH anchoring system rather than the lame seat belt method.

:smt023

[superu]

I just want to put this link somewhere and others might find it useful too.
It's from Exedy and how to choose a clutch. It verifies what I learned about choosing a stage II racing clutch for a non-race application, and why it wore out so quickly. I was told that the stage II would have stronger holding power than stock (and it did, waaaay stronger), but it also wore out in 58K miles.

At any rate, if you're thinking about a racing clutch there is good info here, or if you think a racing clutch is a fun idea in your daily driver, read this also.
http://www.exedyusa.com/documents/How%20to%20properly%20choose%20a%20sports.pdf

[superu]

timing kit, water pump, and some resealing (valve covers, cams, mains, oil pan), and maybe a sweet transmission swap!

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/P1080406JPG-2.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/P1080392JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/P1080393JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/P1080394JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/P1080408JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/P1080417JPG-1.jpg
valve cover gaskets, fr&rr cam seals, main seals and oil pan gasket, and new H2O pump in,
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/0726120905_01jpgglUS-1.jpg

just under 1 yr on the clutch so GTG, although possibly a new trow out bearing to go on the trans swap
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/P1080414JPG-1.jpg

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

I want to know what the height is now with the engine pulled out. Who needs a jack stand! lol

[superu]

delete ;)

[superu]

Unknown to me, I've been unconsciously building my car Safari Rally style!! :smt023

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAJkHfQXEZI&feature=related

[chrish8r]

Haha. Thats pretty cool

[superu]

With an field schedule like mine, it takes a while to get anything done. 8 away 6 home. .
With the engine and trans out for over a month now. ..
My buddy did the valve cover gaskets, cam seals and caps, front and rear main seals and water pump pretty much right away, but last night i did the oil pan gasket

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/08/P1080779JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/08/P1080780JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/08/P1080781JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/08/P1080782JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/08/P1080783JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/08/P1080784JPGglUS-1.jpg

with luck (and me getting off the computer), I'll do the timing kit, bolt the trans back to the engine, AAAAND drop it back in, button 'er up and drive home tonight!

but that might be wishful thinking :smt030

[r3v_v3ng3]

I would advice you not to use that gasket and use permatex grey (which i think is equivalent to fujibond). I did the same with my car and used an aftermarket oil pan gasket and all it did was leaked by the trans area

[lord flashheart]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT USE THOSE!!! THOSE ARE THE WORST! for future reference a bit of RTV silicone is the best way to go.

[Thomistopheles]

Pull that pan and ditch the gasket! Unless you're a masochist and love leaking oil...

[lord flashheart]

Good luck removing it now.. its a huge pain. Every once in a while we get an engine in with those... I HATE them

[i<3mysubi]

You know it would be sweet to put a bigger power plant in... You know, since you have the other one out

[89ChevondaSI]

Oh hi there. I see we meet again on another forum... :)

[superu]

yeah, first time doing a gasket... i guess i should've foregone it (given all your comments), BUT I didn't and now its there...

Did cam seals front and rear, front main, oil pan, valve covers then put it together...

THEN 3 weeks later ...........................................................



my dualer arrived!!!!!!!!

SOOOO, NOW I just finished swapping out the 99 OB 5MT for a gen 1 FOR AUDM FT DR 5MT, 4.11 FD with 1.44:1 lo!!!!!


https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/10/P1080961JPGglUS-1.jpg
(ooh from the mouths of babes... http://youtu.be/KGVpZ2lSXm0 )


@ i<3mysubi I'd LOVE to put in more power but since I don't have an EG33 laying around for install, I stuck with the stocker EJ22 with 170 K, and now (I'm pretty sure) its leak free!! YES

Did the rear main while I was there and put on the new throw out bearing I had from my clutch last year-ish ago...


Did some initial testing, and the low range with 4.11 FD is pretty sweet for bolt-on Subaru awesomeness!!!!!
Just need to make a lever and make it pretty inside.

SO, I am (as far as I know, having looked into this for like 7 years), I'm the 3rd working dual range AWD 5MT in the States. There's another (the first to make it here) but it's never been installed and is now being sold by its 4th US owner. . .


At any rate, sit back and let the "OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHs) and "AAAAAHHHHHS" begin!! ;)

http://youtu.be/tfU3goFxvkc

http://youtu.be/UQ_gmoIJiy0

http://youtu.be/ITtYFs1Ixgc



@ 89ChevondaSI Why yes, yes we do! :smt023
great minds my friend! ;) :smt026

[superu]

purchased 10/17/2003 72,117 miles (photo 10/28/03)
today 171,466 miles and 9 years of awesome! (photo 10/29/12)


https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/10/subaru2520rt2520frontjpgglUS-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/10/P1080984JPGglUS-1.jpg

nine years, and what a journey!!
:smt023

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

she's come a long way!

[superu]

quick teaser. . . :twisted:

http://youtu.be/WunHHz5SaLc

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/11/201211042520090130jpgglUS-2.jpg

http://youtu.be/paO0kSaQ2KE

[chrish8r]

I wish there was something like this near me.....Id love to offroad the my wagon(besides on stone roads)

[r3v_v3ng3]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WHoooooooooooooooooooooo

Very nice! Looks like your enjoying your hi/lo transmission
Btw, how much did that cost (transmission/shipping/ect..) if you don't mind me asking

[superu]

video showing rev comparisons of my new transmission improvement.
lo vs hi range speeds

http://youtu.be/kPcP91z5Xxk

[superu]

OUT WITH THE [NEW] OLD (99 ob 5mt 4.11 fd)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/10/201210222520132720jpgglUS-1.jpg


IN WITH THE [USED] NEW
98 AUDM forester 5MT with dual range

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/10/201210042520093426jpgglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/10/201210042520094142jpgglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/10/201210042520093508jpgglUS-2.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/11/201210042520093437jpgglUS-2.jpg

LO RANGE LEVER
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/11/201210042520093451jpgglUS-2.jpg

[superu]

shifter goes from this
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/10/P1080955JPGglUS-1.jpg

to this
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/11/P1080957JPGglUS-2.jpg

[superu]

Suby sliders

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/11/201210262520143206jpgglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/11/P1080970JPGglUS-2.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/11/201210262520143554jpgglUS-2.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/11/P1080974JPGglUS-2.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/11/P1000085JPGglUS-2.jpg

straightened the pinch weld, scuffed the paint to bare steel every 13" for 1.5" then welded 1" angle iron against the pinch weld, inside and out. Then hammered the weld back against the angle iron and welded it down.

Next to wire-wheel it , prime and bedliner it. Maybe silicone b/t he welds then cover it up with liner

[superu]

Painted the sliders

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/12/P1000708JPG-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/12/P1000709JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/12/P1000702JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/12/P1000704JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/12/P1000705JPG-1.jpg

[superu]

I just compiled this thread over the past hour+ (while my 10 month old was napping) so sorry to redirect and be short by not retyping or copy-pasting here in a unique report, and I know you all deserve that respect ;) BUT I'm just going to tack the link in here.

http://dirtyimpreza.com/forums/showthre ... post356093 (http://dirtyimpreza.com/forums/showthread.php?p=356093#post356093)

Long story short I wheeled my (well and tastefully modified) 95 legacy with two 4" lifted FJ80s and a 3" lifted FJ cruiser, tackling Lockhart Basin ( north to south) IN A DAY!!

Enjoy!!

[lord flashheart]

Thats so fuckin awesome that u got that transmission!
I was begining to think it was a myth!

[lord flashheart]

Hey where did you get your dual Range stuff and ow much? My buddy wants one now

[superu]

Hey where did you get your dual Range stuff and ow much? My buddy wants one now

took 8 years of research and want, 3 years of knowing what I wanted and trying to get help, then once that was secured and a deal brokered, it took a years from "yeah I'll buy it" . . . to ring ring "uum, I got a transmission for ya on th' truck, wehr ye' wan it?"

I dealt with an Australian forum-er from other boards. I had feelers our for a couple years until someone stepped forward and followed through on helping me find one, buy it, drain it, store it, prep it, pack it, and drop it at the appropriate place, once I secured shipping.

SO all told it was around $1400 (about a grand in U$ shipping and the box was $450 AU$)

I may have a lead on others. . . probaly just liberty ones though (they're waay easier to find and cheaper), but that low gear is easily swapped for a better low reduction.

here's one that's available state-side that's bounced around for a few years, never been installed in the US, AND he just lowered his asking price (surely for the holidays ;)

http://dirtyimpreza.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27104&highlight=dual+range+awd

[superu]

Hey where did you get your dual Range stuff and ow much? My buddy wants one now

New info has come to light...
check vtec_motors on ebay. They're a JDM distributor in Canada and you can scora a dual range 5MT from them for wAAAAy cheaper shipping than I paid.
There's a NA EJ20 WITH DR 5MT attached on there now for about what I paid shipped for my transmission alone!!

Although its a gen 2 forester (so it should have the low gear swapped out), it's still 4.11 and low bolt-on

WORD! :smt027

[superu]

Bumping wheeling report for ooo's and aaah's!
http://dirtyimpreza.com/forums/showthre ... post356093 (http://dirtyimpreza.com/forums/showthread.php?p=356093#post356093)

;)

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

OOOOH AAAAAAH

[superu]

OOOOH AAAAAAH


Sweet success! :grin:

[nikolaus.conrad]

Wow wow wow!!! Impressive stuff!! I love looking at photographs you post, why am I just finding this link you posted? Lol

[Dead91silvia]

I want in action video!!!!

Looks like a blast!

[superu]

Thanks!! :smt023


Wow wow wow!!! Impressive stuff!! I love looking at photographs you post, why am I just finding this link you posted? Lol

[superu]

I want in action video!!!!

Looks like a blast!
ask and ye shall receive. . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRCeNhAUjtY&list=UUSgD-OqkX3bEXpLXz0sa-FA&index=19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dy13rjoZoM&list=UUSgD-OqkX3bEXpLXz0sa-FA&index=20

testing the new D/R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ_gmoIJiy0&list=UUSgD-OqkX3bEXpLXz0sa-FA&index=25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITtYFs1Ixgc&list=UUSgD-OqkX3bEXpLXz0sa-FA&index=24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfU3goFxvkc&list=UUSgD-OqkX3bEXpLXz0sa-FA&index=26


But yeah, i need some more good "capability" vidz
:twisted:

[i<3mysubi]

At one time I had a lsd center diff. And a lsd rear diff(it was 3.9 however). I could have sold you, but i already sold them.

Great videos! One of a kind subaru, and the dual range is awesome

[superu]

Thx!

well, the 5MT is a VLSD center so that's not a thing, and I have a CLSD rear :twisted:
BUT it would be sweet if I could figure out how to make the stock VLSD center into a locking center BUT keepingit as FT AWD, THAT'st the trick of awesomeness i'd like. That way I can keep full time AWD BUT lock the center for rear 4x4. The rear diff I have now (an RX LS stuffed into an outback 4.11 ring gear) is sweet but I think it already needs some shims. Turns out a VLSD would be a better DD for an AWD, as I think this CLSD was pretty tight and locking up all the time when driving on pavement as a DD...
live and learn eh?

;)

Ciao


At one time I had a lsd center diff. And a lsd rear diff(it was 3.9 however). I could have sold you, but i already sold them.

Great videos! One of a kind subaru, and the dual range is awesome

[superu]

14 subscribers and 14K views :smt023

https://www.youtube.com/user/aspleenic

:smt020

[Muse]

Wow... what's the elevation for that mineral bottom road, top to bottom?

[superu]

Wow... what's the elevation for that mineral bottom road, top to bottom?

almost 400 ft in about 2 miles.
The track goes all the way to the Green river boat ramp...

here are some pix ;)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZnPuCVQcPNc/UcIMqeo3aII/AAAAAAAAf08/TjmtW33vtfw/s800/P1090148.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oLwTuC1lP3o/UcIMsNZ2E8I/AAAAAAAAf1M/11xNdaeVWcg/s800/P1090149.JPG

and some Google Earthing
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qPUkLNSsLqU/UcIMvtOe-xI/AAAAAAAAf1I/HSDtc0N8tks/s800/GoogleEarth_Image.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xMNrkVBtHLw/UcIMx-n2KlI/AAAAAAAAf1U/OrfAYVlTWyM/s800/GoogleEarth_Image2.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sR_KDzkcwlc/UcIPoP_2A1I/AAAAAAAAf1k/W5p4lrr5JtE/s800/MBprofile.jpg

Beginning at about 4600 ft near Canyonlands NP (Island in the sky district), 357 ft drop 2.66 miles avg. slope -12%
start point at top of drop:
38°30'28.05"N
109°59'36.33"W


end point at boat ramp
38°31'28.51"N
109°59'34.30"W


:smt026

[superu]

Rear Sway Bar (RSB) quick disconnect

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1030505JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1030506JPGglUS-1.jpg
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https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1030509JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1030511JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1030512JPGglUS-1.jpg

Two 14mm wrenchs and a 15mm wrench (leverage arm on one 14mm), PB, 3/8" by 2" clevis pin and "R"clip
Best $2.73 mod for awesome off-road articulation!!!

[superu]

fixin' ta get ready ta upgrade!!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1090165JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1090168JPGglUS-1.jpg

[superu]

new grill clips
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1030297JPGglUS-1.jpg

debade - rebadge
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1030293JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1030321JPGglUS-1.jpg

Corrected size "R"
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1060085JPGglUS-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/08/P1030295JPGglUS-1.jpg

[superu]

USDM 1995 Fegacy EJ22 running an AUDM 1998 Forester DR FT AWD 5MT

A little more AUDM Awesomeness to complete the cabin:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/09/P1030708JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/09/P1030709JPG-1.jpg
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https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/09/P1030712JPG-1.jpg
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https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/09/P1030714JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/09/P1030716JPG-1.jpg

[superu]

C,

They are becoming more common through eBay JDM importers. There are some variations and details to be mindful of (final drive, low gearing ratios, # bolt on bell housing, etc.)

Give me details and I'll give you details. I know there may be one available in CO pretty soon, otherwise through eBay JDMers, you can typically get one bought and shipped for around $800ish.


Hey where did you get your dual Range stuff and ow much? My buddy wants one now

[lord flashheart]

Hey buddy. When are you coming up here again? You should let me build you something cool for your car.

[superu]

haha! I like the sound of the offer (heh heh :twisted: )
No plans for a northerly trip anytime soon. :(

You should consider the rally cross down here . . . with someone else's car :lol:

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

Dumb question, but what is the second handle?

[86bratman]

Dumb question, but what is the second handle?

low range

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

Dumb question, but what is the second handle?

low range

Awesome! I'd love to find one dirt cheap (cheaper then prices listed above) and throw that in my wagon.

[Sub-Goon]

USDM 1995 Fegacy EJ22 running an AUDM 1998 Forester DR FT AWD 5MT

A little more AUDM Awesomeness to complete the cabin:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/09/P1030714JPG-1.jpg


That is awesome! Altho, I got a chuckle when I realized you sourced out all the pieces for the conversion and still have the factory tape deck!!

[superu]

Ooh no, that's upgraded to a weather band tape deck!!! :smt023



USDM 1995 Fegacy EJ22 running an AUDM 1998 Forester DR FT AWD 5MT

A little more AUDM Awesomeness to complete the cabin:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/09/P1030714JPG-1.jpg


That is awesome! Altho, I got a chuckle when I realized you sourced out all the pieces for the conversion and still have the factory tape deck!!

[Muse]

I love weather band!

[Sub-Goon]

Ok, weather band I can understand!

[superu]

fine tuned low range shifter:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/P1030743JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/P1030744JPG-1.jpg

[superu]

Measured approach and departure angles

rear:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/P1030933JPG-1.jpg
Contacts receiver at 21.0 degrees

front:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/P1030931JPG-1.jpg
30.7 degrees

:smt004

[superu]

MAYBE prepping for a night rally at the Moab rally cross this weekend :smt004

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/201310142520112111-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/201310142520112228-1.jpg

[Muse]

Might we get pics of this monster getting slideways?

[superu]

if you say please. . . :cool:


Might we get pics of this monster getting slideways?

[Muse]

PLEEEEEASE?
*puppy dog eyes*

[superu]

from the archives. . .
I hope this weekend nets new photos!

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/4061251420_f33fd79faf_o-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/4060508951_6d9e5440fc_o-1.jpg
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I'll see if I can find more. . . :smt025

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

MAYBE prepping for a night rally at the Moab rally cross this weekend :smt004

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/201310142520112111-1.jpghttps://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/201310142520112228-1.jpg

Hella 700s?

[lord flashheart]

damn dawg. those some big ass lights

[superu]

Hella 700s?

:smt012

7" tractor lights

:grin:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/10/4749560419_f382166235-1.jpg

[superu]

damn dawg. those some big ass lights

:smt005
:smt023

[superu]

PLEEEEEASE?
*puppy dog eyes*

From the recent Moab rally:

CLICK>> http://youtu.be/Yji8FDwYNBE <<CLICK


for MY car, check 38 seconds and 3 min 08 sec. :smt002