prodriver1's 99' outback limited uber offroadaru lives on!

[prodriver1]

the new ride:) very excited to have another outback. this will be the 3rd one for me and the first white subaru. I was going to keep it stock for the wife and kids but they voted with me to mod the crap out of it (well sort of anyway). I got the car for a monkey ($500) from a lovely lady who thought it didn't work but a new battery and a push of the security override solved that. also some d-bag broke the rear window with a bb gun so that was an expensive proposition. So I traded a ford truck for a legacy parts car and had cheep glass and a tone of extra stuff the most handy of which was the snaps and screws that hold the trim together, now the interior is almost perfect. Also parted my rust free 98' legacy GT for this build.


MOD'S int:
blaupunkt door speakers front and rear
broad-view rear view mirror
new rear wiper motor x2
new random int and ext trim pieces
full size subaru spare

MOD'S ext:
rallitek light bar
16" snowflakes
27" mud tyres
new front and rear windows
NAPA offroad lights
rear hatch bullbar

MOD'S performance:
98' GT 2.5 swap
Brembo cross-drilled & zinc coated front rotors
new front and rear WRX calipers 02'
SS braided lines
new rear WRX rotor's02'
no ABS
UEL header
full exhaust
2 glass packs
vibrant street power muffler
DIY oil catch can
KYB GR-2 shocks

rallitek front AND rear swaybars
whiteline front tower bar
new MOOG front endlinks
rallitek solid rear endlinks
neon coil mod
STI plug wires
denso iridium plugs
no AC belt
ABS delete
95amp SVX alternator
1" subtle solutions lift kit
braided ss clutch hose

[prodriver1]

hear it is in the daytime, not a fan of white subarus but it was cheep.

[prodriver1]

it has heated seats THAT WORK! thats a first for me:) I even went out and got some leather cleaner and conditioner.

[prodriver1]

my own personal subaru junk yard.I needed the rear window and some other stuff. its gone but replaced by the black gt, the outback wanted its engine:)

[prodriver1]

anyone have issues with the wagon rear wiper not working? the new rear glass from the parts wagon was installed but the wiper wont budge. the stalk for the wipers is broken, could that be why? bad signal or something? or maybe its just an old wiper unit? I have a backup wiper unit but I cant figure out how to get the old one off, the bolt holding it on is well stuck and I dont want to get too rough on my new rear window. any advice? my 1st thought is to replace the wiper stalk and see if that works, I also have a backup for that.

[emsalex]

looks nice, not a white car fan myself but I always loved that color combo,

Never had rear whiper problems myself but I. Know that the honda element rear whiper arm is a nice up grade if it turns out that's ur problem

[Airgne]

could you please read the rules on thread titles. and fix? thanks

[prodriver1]

outback parking and regular car parking:)LOL :grin: :smt023

[prodriver1]

parts update.
got those blaupunkt speakers in :grin: crass neaver sounded so good :smt023

dohc 2.5 new head gaskets, timing belt, new seals front to back, new alternator, new starter, new thermostat, compression test good, injector flow test good, new coil-plugs-plug wires. all done less than 30k ago ready to go into the outback. very excited to get rid of that raggedy ars warped head slow piece of shyt thats in it.

when engine goes in getting UEL header and WRX muffler I have put on with two 2.5" glass packs and an O2 spacer I have.

KYB gr2's still in the box waiting for Smiths outfitting specialties to get back to me about the 2.5" lift kit and steel skid plate I want to get from them.

rallitek swaybar F&R and whiteline steel endlinks F&R to be ordered as soon as taxes are in :smt023

other than that I got a chance to detail the interior and work on fixing the rear window wiper, still can't get it off :cry:

as soon as spring comes me and some friends and I are making another paint booth setup in the garage for some satin black top and black truck bed liner for the "outback" part, it will be the perfect opportunity to put the 3 rust free doors I have on :smt023 . also the 16" "snowflakes" will get the black treatment. gona be SWEET!

and eventually I'll get new tint but its not a big priority so it will come last.

[DarkPhoenix]

Hawt!! We need pics, son!

MEGAGIGABYTES!!!

[prodriver1]

latest tally puts me @ $2,599.00 for tyres and suspension alone :shock: this is mine and the subaru's B-day, christmas, boxing day, Chinese new year, Hanukkah, and Tiff's B-day present all rolled into one :lol:

[prodriver1]

just ordered new tyres!!!! Graber AT2's 215/65/16. 27" of tyre baby. a little smaller than the 27.7" tyres I had on the old outback but with the snowflakes they should look pretty good all covered in mud :grin:

[prodriver1]

RallITEK Overload Springs 2005-2009 Outback Wagon
RallITEK Overload Springs 2005-2009 Outback Wagon
43-007KBRAND: RALLITEK COLOR: RED POSITION: REAR 57 available. (Updated at Midnight)

will these fit? anyone?

[DarkPhoenix]

Nope. The rear on the 2000+ Legacies is a multilink setup. The springs do not swap over.

[prodriver1]

Nope. The rear on the 2000+ Legacies is a multilink setup. The springs do not swap over.
:smt010 :smt010 :smt010 :smt010 :smt010 I can't find lift springs..... :smt009 :smt009 :smt010 :smt010 :smt010 :smt022 :smt022

[RS MN]

depending on how much cash you have to play with, King Springs should make some lift springs that will fit.


but be ready to make your wallet cry...

[prodriver1]

depending on how much cash you have to play with, King Springs should make some lift springs that will fit.


but be ready to make your wallet cry...
I have emailed them twice but no response and I can't find a US distributor.

[RS MN]

There isn't a us distributor. The reason its so extremely expensive is you need to pay for shipping from australia.

[prodriver1]

There isn't a us distributor. The reason its so extremely expensive is you need to pay for shipping from australia.
thats cool as long as they don't send a bunch of killer spider snakes! :shock:

[prodriver1]

exhaust broke AGAIN! so getting my UEL header and 2.5" piping 2 glasspacks and a WRX muffler put on. and a O2 extension nothing else. gona sound good. I'll put up a vid Monday when its done.

[prodriver1]

rallitek rear sway bar in the way:) holding off on the front one till I feel the rear only. thanks to touge factory in Chicago for hooking up the whiteline solid endlinks front and rear:) and still working on the kingsprings. I WILL HAVE LIFT!

[Huffer]

Try Georgestocks in New Zealand:
http://www.georgestock.co.nz/Springs.asp

They are the official distributor for Kings Springs in NZ, and I have bought a ton of stuff from them (only when I'm home visiting).

Reuben (here on SL-i) might be able to hook you up with shipping the parts if George Stocks turns out to be too expensive.

[prodriver1]

brembo cross drilled front rotors, stainless lines, WRX calipers front and rear, and new rear WRX rotors on!

[prodriver1]

just picked up a 98' dodge neon coil:) only 87,000 miles on the car it came from so should be good for a while.

[DarkPhoenix]

Nope. The rear on the 2000+ Legacies is a multilink setup. The springs do not swap over.
:smt010 :smt010 :smt010 :smt010 :smt010 I can't find lift springs..... :smt009 :smt009 :smt010 :smt010 :smt010 :smt022 :smt022

Wanna do it on the cheap, and still keep it stock Scooby? SG Forester struts, springs, and Saggy Butt Spacers for the rear. Cheap lift, FTW

[prodriver1]

Wanna do it on the cheap, and still keep it stock Scooby? SG Forester struts, springs, and Saggy Butt Spacers for the rear. Cheap lift, FTW[/quote]


I have KYB's already so I don't need those. so the springs are taller? are they also stiffer? and this rear spacer bit, is that due to the outback being heavier in the rear? if so I would rather get a better setup so its not all floppy. touge factory is looking into some kingsprings for me. fingers crossed.

[prodriver1]

tyres are here! they do look the part:) getting them mounted on the snowflakes tomorrow. outback will be back from the muffler shop today:) very excited to hear it rumble.

[prodriver1]

to bad I can't post anymore pics :smt009 whats up with that???? board limit? WTF? I got pics to show.

[Huffer]

photobucket.

[lord flashheart]

WTF is that green shit all over ur car? it looks like it got

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/400_hford_080329_kwinter_80429215-1.jpg

[lord flashheart]

or did big foot blow his nose on ur car?

[prodriver1]

or did big foot blow his nose on ur car?
it was a tarp covering the no rear window due to kid+bbgun combo.

[subydrift]

I have a set of 1" lift spacers with hardware I'm trying to get rid of if your interested!

[prodriver1]

I have a set of 1" lift spacers with hardware I'm trying to get rid of if your interested!
no going with suspension lift. thanks though.

[prodriver1]

almost done. got the tyres on rims, got the kyb's put on springs, finished the brake job. but one of the kyb's busted so I had to order an emergency overnight shock so I can get this thing together.

[prodriver1]

looks good with the new meats.

[prodriver1]

ahhhhhhh............. its finally done. some d-bag was tired, cold, and in a hurry at 1am (me) so the rears went on backwards :smt009 . well after a test ride the ripped the shit out of the body scraping of the undercoating to bare metal. so I called it a night and went at it the next day, and I have 2 kids mind you and I am a stay at home dad so free time to work on the car just doesn't exist. but thanks to Andy (the frozen birk in the pic) I got the new replacement kyb from SVS. so I put the new front on and got the rears on rite and got the brakes BACK on and the rims so Andy could bring it down to the alignment shop. So when he gets back he tells me there's no brakes, so I check it out and the peddle goes to the floor :smt013 . So back on jack stands, rims off, and back to bleeding. I did a full bleed and still nothing, and this is today and I'm going on a business trip tomorrow :smt002 AKA drinking with friends I haven't seen in a while as I don't get out much anymore. so I start thinking the worst, something is f'ed up and my once a year holiday is over. well after a full bottle of dot3 this solid yellow bubbly old brake fluid comes out for 4-5 bleeds :smt012 . got everything feelin good an went for another test drive this on including some church parking lot atheism :smt023 . I also did a rear diff fluid change and a oil change while it was up. she's feelin rite :grin:

[prodriver1]

now just waiting for the rallitek rear swaybar and whiteline front and rear solid endlinks. :smt026 then I will be fully ready :smt027 :smt028

[RS MN]

im looking to get those sway bars and endlinks as well, where are you getting them through?

[phi11]

I am a stay at home dad so free time to work on the car just doesn't exist.
I hear that.

[prodriver1]

im looking to get those sway bars and endlinks as well, where are you getting them through?
rallitek is easy to get a hold of. but the endlinks I'm getting through touge factory in Chicago, they are a whiteline distributor and much cheaper shipping wise.

[prodriver1]

I am a stay at home dad so free time to work on the car just doesn't exist.
I hear that.
want to come out with us? going to town hall brewery on sat night. Its going to be nice to be around adults again :smt023

[phi11]

damn, I can't sat.

[prodriver1]

damn, I can't sat.
:(. to be honest if your going to be with your kid I'm jealous. even now before I'm gone I miss them. their like having an old Ferrari, really annoying and doesn't work most of the time but if anyone tried to take it away from me I'd kill them:)

[superu]

ahhhhhhh............. I have 2 kids mind you and I am a stay at home dad so free time to work on the car just doesn't exist.

:smt023

It's the best and worst at the same time.

I wish I could appreciate the moment when I'm in it more often. :smt012

I go back and forth on "wanting" a full time job in my field vs. appreciating NOT having that stress, schedule, scene in my life... Mostly I come back to appreciating not having the job, and then I go outside with my boy.

In fact, today I need to test a ski kit for the bike trailer, I fabed with another stay-at-home dad last night!

Cheers dads, keep your chins high and think about ALL the sweet car stuff you can think about!!

Ooh, and I certainly appreciate the lack of thorough thiniking when doing a project, like you well illustrated in your strut swap, brake issue :smt002

The car looks good! :smt031

[prodriver1]

got a new wiper stalk on and spark plug, plug wires, and coil changed yesterday. going to be rolling the front fenders this weekend and changing the front passenger side axle, all the other ones are new so its the last axle to do for a long time :smt023 .

[prodriver1]

done for now... who am I kidding? its a work in progress. if its not getting fixed its getting modded :grin:

[prodriver1]

now just waiting for the rallitek rear swaybar and whiteline front and rear solid endlinks. :smt026 then I will be fully ready :smt027 :smt028
got the front and rear bars ordered, the rears come with solid endlinks but the fronts don't so I still have to get those. bars are being powder coated and will be here around the 1st of march.

[prodriver1]

love this thing

[prodriver1]

are forester springs taller than outback springs?

[superu]

are forester springs taller than outback springs?

yes.
Here is the rear.. 97 OB left, 99 FOR (painted) right
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/DSC01863JPG-1.jpg
(note, OB spring is up-side down...)

You'll need the FOR upper spring perch for the front since the FOR front spring has a slight taper to the coil on the sop coil... Here is an SVX pix as an example, but the FOR is the same... You can use either OB or FOR top hats, but you need the upper perch from the fozzy to go with the spring...

top coil on second gen OB (03), but 1st gen is the same
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/02/0320OB20front20coil20top20diameterJPG-1.jpg

SVX
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/9420SVX20front20coil20top20diameterJPG-1.jpg

I have some gen 1 FOR front springs in the shed. I can try to take a pic for you with the FOR spring next to a gen 1 and gen 2 OB front spring...

[prodriver1]

^do you have said springs for sale?^

[prodriver1]

pulled front and rear subframes off for rebuilding and paint (STi pink), will be putting a lift kit on once I find the one I want and then the whole setup will be put on the outback once it gets painted in the summer. EVERYTHING will be clean, painted, rust free, and new! cleaning the new engine and its looking good:) almost there :smt023 maybe I should freshen up the ol' 5spd b4 I put it back in with the new engine, new syncros are needed and I'd like to see the gears b4 I start raging on them. :twisted:

[superu]

^do you have said springs for sale?^

I guess. :smt023
Unless by "said" you mean those red ones in the pic... the red ones are in the rear struts of my car :smt002
BUT I do have a pair of forester front springs, although the upper perches are in my car, cradling SVX springs. . .

You'll need those forester upper perches to marry the forester FRONT springs to your OB struts.

I'll try to get a side-by-side picture, of the gen 1 FOR front with the gen 1 OB front, for you...

[prodriver1]

^do you have said springs for sale?^

I guess. :smt023
Unless by "said" you mean those red ones in the pic... the red ones are in the rear struts of my car :smt002
BUT I do have a pair of forester front springs, although the upper perches are in my car, cradling SVX springs. . .

You'll need those forester upper perches to marry the forester FRONT springs to your OB struts.

I'll try to get a side-by-side picture, of the gen 1 FOR front with the gen 1 OB front, for you...
How much of a lift would the rear get with forester springs? I think I will continue my search for H6 front springs, I heard they give a 1" lift to the front so I want comparable lift in the rear (thats what she said).

[superu]

^do you have said springs for sale?^

I guess. :smt023
Unless by "said" you mean those red ones in the pic... the red ones are in the rear struts of my car :smt002
BUT I do have a pair of forester front springs, although the upper perches are in my car, cradling SVX springs. . .

You'll need those forester upper perches to marry the forester FRONT springs to your OB struts.

I'll try to get a side-by-side picture, of the gen 1 FOR front with the gen 1 OB front, for you...

How much of a lift would the rear get with forester springs? I think I will continue my search for H6 front springs, I heard they give a 1" lift to the front so I want comparable lift in the rear (thats what she said).

after settling, somewhere form .5 - .75"
as you know, I have forester rear springs and SVX front (second gen OB H-6 and baja would be similar, baja a little higher front)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/01/SVX20front20FOR20rear20bJPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/P1010396JPG-1.jpg

OB rear in car
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/DSC01213JPG-1.jpg

FOR in rear
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/DSC01891JPG-1.jpg

OB front
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/1a-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/1b-1.jpg

SVX front
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/SVX20front20coils20detail20rightJPG-1.jpg

My passenger side is .25" taller than the driver's side, for some reason...


Here is gen 1 OB left, gen 2 OB H-4 center and gen 1 FOR right

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/P1020038JPG-1.jpg

gen 1 OB top diameter
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/P1020042JPG-1.jpg

gen 1 FOR top diameter
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/P1020044JPG-1.jpg

gen 1 OB front coil
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/P1020048JPG-1.jpg

gen 1 FOR front coil
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/P1020050JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/03/P1020051JPG-1.jpg


happy projecting to you!! pix pix pix!

[prodriver1]

^this is so helpful! thank you for all the pics and help :smt023

[superu]

^this is so helpful! thank you for all the pics and help :smt023

Word!! :smt026

and there's a little more here:
http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/85-all-other-subaru-models/21168-taller-forester-springs-outback-springs-2.html

[DarkPhoenix]

Yeah thanks Superu. I didn't realise I would need the Upper Perches in the front. I will be doing them this weekend.

@Pro- Looking sexy like a mofo.

[prodriver1]

Yeah thanks Superu. I didn't realise I would need the Upper Perches in the front. I will be doing them this weekend.

@Pro- Looking sexy like a mofo.
thanks dude:) almost there in the looks department. cant wait till its painted, its going to look sweet!

[superu]

Yeah thanks Superu. I didn't realise I would need the Upper Perches in the front. I will be doing them this weekend.

sweet!! Yeah, you'd've been pissed when you got it all apart then realized the FOR bits wouldn't seat into the OB perches. That was my experience with SVX springs when changing my struts... nearly a year later, I got it all done though ;)
looking forward to the updates, if not here link to where you have it, yeah?

Take some measurement photos too. It's fun and cool to see the differences. hub-center to top of wheel well, ground to top of wheel well, rear diff, rear cat (or lowest part in front), etc...



thanks dude:) almost there in the looks department. cant wait till its painted, its going to look sweet!

oooooo, paaiint.

any teaser info on your painting ideas?

[prodriver1]

thanks dude:) almost there in the looks department. cant wait till its painted, its going to look sweet!

oooooo, paaiint.

any teaser info on your painting ideas?[/quote]

well I have rust free cally doors with tinted windows I'll be putting in, but I also have rust free subframs F&R and a 30K fresh engine that are all going in after I finish rebuilding the subframes with new polly bushings and a lift kit, also the forester springs to go with the KYB GR-2's I have. then I will get the tint matched up so its even and then comes the paint:) while the car is stripped of subframes and drivetrain I will be getting all the rust taken care of, grinding or welding in new stuff (I gave it a light going over and it looks good but you never know until you get up close.) whatever it needs, then black truckbed liner for a full underbody coat and the "outback" part along the bottom will also be blk truckbed liner, the rest of the body will be satin black or satin Ti I cant decide yet. I want to get tube style front and rear bumper replacements but they are well pricey. stock USDM lights thank you and I'm getting a rallitek light bar, and maybe a big ars yak rack just for looks:)

[prodriver1]

oh and my fav mod will be the STi pink headliner:)

[StatGSR]

oh and my fav mod will be the STi pink headliner:)

its not pink!!! its cherry blossom red... :smt006 :grin:

[prodriver1]

oh and my fav mod will be the STi pink headliner:)

its not pink!!! its cherry blossom red... :smt006 :grin:
vagina blossom pink:) its my fav :smt023

[DarkPhoenix]

vagina blossom pink:) its my fav :smt023


That is a much better way to describe the colour.

[superu]

Ooh my! :smt023

[prodriver1]

^^hey I guess thats why we have kids;)

[superu]

^^hey I guess that's why we have kids;)
:smt043


well played!

[grayguy]

LOL! nice

[prodriver1]

just measured the front is 28" from ground to wheel arch rear is 29"

[prodriver1]

the exhaust clip. nice and quiet.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np67z_j__xI

[prodriver1]

just ordered whiteline steering rack bushings:) every subaru I have owned has had a bad steering rack or bad rack bushings, seems to be something every suby owner should take a look at.

[prodriver1]

just to let people know when my rallitek swaybars get here I will have outback bars for sale.

[prodriver1]

rebuilt the front knuckles with new wheel bearings, outer and front wheel seals, ball joints and ordering a new steering rack, also got a new front driver side axle getting the pass side axle this weekend and then back for another alignment. this is turning out better than I ever expected.

[prodriver1]

I need forester rear springs if anyone has some. :smt006

[prodriver1]

I am having the hardest time deciding on a muffler... I am thinking a twin tube, SPT, shitty muffler shop muffler, cherry bomb, magnaflow, remus? I have UEL header, 2" piping, 2 glass packs, and the stock muffler so all custom accept the muffler. I want quiet but it sounds like a prius which is to say too quiet, I don't want a loud car at all I want the sound for me not others, so what should I get?

[TGX4776]

vibrant streetpower quiet but still lovely

[prodriver1]

vibrant streetpower quiet but still lovely
ordered! nice arse sound. put up a clip when I get it on.

[TGX4776]

make sure you put a tip on it so it'll extend past your bumper. it'll make it soo much quieter in car.

[prodriver1]

make sure you put a tip on it so it'll extend past your bumper. it'll make it soo much quieter in car.
oh yes. I actually got a different muffler from the same company its a street power but a single exit not dual, it a 2.5 in and 2.5 out straight through oval in black, but ya when the shop puts it on with the new header ( other one cracked) I'll get a tip put on it.

[prodriver1]

if I got a full polly bushing kit for a WRX how many of the bushings could I use? all of them?

[prodriver1]

what is the weakest part of a subaru coolant system? I see a lot of waterpump replacements, is that it? how about the thermostats? when do those typically go? and the radiators? how well do those do? and can I stay in the subaru family for a better radiator? I'm not having trouble I just want to get ready :smt023 but on the subject it does sit at 1/2 on the gauge but its steady, my GT sat well below half all the time.

[prodriver1]

I see a lot of STi's with under-body strengthening braces, do those fit on the outback? or does the lifted geometry not work?

[TGX4776]

make sure you put a tip on it so it'll extend past your bumper. it'll make it soo much quieter in car.
oh yes. I actually got a different muffler from the same company its a street power but a single exit not dual, it a 2.5 in and 2.5 out straight through oval in black, but ya when the shop puts it on with the new header ( other one cracked) I'll get a tip put on it.
Mines single tip as well

[prodriver1]

new pass side axle on :smt023 those damn axle pins suck!

[grayguy]

Research Koyo radiators, I know people use them in the SS's maybe there's some that would work for you.

[prodriver1]

well over a month later! my rallitek swaybars are on the way! JFC! I almost canceled my order they took so long...

[prodriver1]

New rear wiper motor and wiper stalk in and fully operational :grin: got the new header and vibrant muffler today and they will be on tomorrow! :smt023 :smt026 swaybars should be in tomorrow and I'll get them on this weekend. then another alignment next week and I'm all set for a while. :smt028

[prodriver1]

oh ya and the light bar is in but I'll wait till I have lights for it.

[prodriver1]

knock knock, whose there?...oh no one just UPS WITH MY RALLITEK SWAYBARS!!!!!! ya thats rite! :smt023 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :grin:

[prodriver1]

exhaust is done!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[superu]

Q: how do you spell productive?


A: "P-R-O-D-R-I-V-E-R-1"


;)

[prodriver1]

Q: how do you spell productive?


A: "P-R-O-D-R-I-V-E-R-1"


;)
when you got the love you find the means. :smt023 thanks man. :grin:

[prodriver1]

busted a steering rack bolt :smt013 , its all tucked up in a spot I cant get to with the short ass bolt removers I have, gona have to McGroober some shit as usual. getting stuff done when its seemingly impossible, the subaru way:)

[prodriver1]

ride height update! I have 30" in the rear and almost 30" in the front! thanks swaybars! I don't know how you did it but you did:)

[prodriver1]

pic help! :neutral: :smt017 . so as some of you may already know I'm a tard when it comes to computers, I have a photobucket account but I cant figure out how to get pics up on here. I tried and it still said "limit reached " for attachments :smt013 . what am I doing wrong? I have so many parts and build pics to share. :smt022

[prodriver1]

out to the garage to try again :neutral: ,swaybars are on just dealing with that damn steering rack. just going to blast some sub-humans and deal, "way she goes Bubbs, way she fuckin goes"

[prodriver1]

all done! :smt023 :smt023 :grin:

[prodriver1]

light bar on:)

[ubar legacy]

Upload pics to photobucket, then copy the IMG code, then paste it on here. I wanna see this!

[superu]

pic help! :neutral: :smt017 . so as some of you may already know I'm a tard when it comes to computers, I have a photobucket account but I cant figure out how to get pics up on here. I tried and it still said "limit reached " for attachments :smt013 . what am I doing wrong? I have so many parts and build pics to share. :smt022

Springs in route dude!

O.K. for pics...

1. Have your photobucket open and right click on the pic you want to post here...

2. Go down to "copy image location" and left click on that

3. In your post here (or whatever forum you're posting pix too...), up above the window you're typing your text into, you'll see a button that says "Img", left click that.

4. You'll see some code that says 'bracket img bracket' 'bracket img bracket' in the middle of the two img tags, right click and go down to "paste" Or just use the keyboard shortcut [control] and the letter "V" (known as ctrl+v) and the URL for your photobucket picture will pop up between the img code tage in the forum...



good luck! and post away... this does not use your limited "upload" ability to share pix, but just redirects an image magically from photobucket to the forum...

NEATO!

[prodriver1]

there is a whine on deceleration that I believe is coming from the tranns :smt009 any ideas on what it could be?

[prodriver1]

exhaust vid :grin: http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd4 ... I_0891.mp4 (http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd402/subyguy3/?action=view&current=MVI_0891.mp4)

[prodriver1]

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[ubar legacy]

there is a whine on deceleration that I believe is coming from the tranns :smt009 any ideas on what it could be?
Differential...?

[prodriver1]

:smt027 :smt027

[prodriver1]

there is a whine on deceleration that I believe is coming from the tranns :smt009 any ideas on what it could be?
Differential...?
it just started after I put on the swaybars so IDKWTF? its never made noise b4, and the fluid is new

[prodriver1]

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[prodriver1]

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[prodriver1]

pic overload :smt005 :smt031

[superu]

them'sre some fatty sway bars yo!! ;) nice looking work

Also, it looks like you figured out the pic thing LOL!

[prodriver1]

there is a whine on deceleration that I believe is coming from the tranns :smt009 any ideas on what it could be?
this.

[prodriver1]

back from the alignment shop. feelin good:)

[LGT Kirby]

Looking good! Didn't realize the front sways from Rallitek didn't come with the endlinks, but the rears did. I sent them a few emails explaining my rage that I haven't received my endlinks yet. Oooooooopssss. Lol

[prodriver1]

Looking good! Didn't realize the front sways from Rallitek didn't come with the endlinks, but the rears did. I sent them a few emails explaining my rage that I haven't received my endlinks yet. Oooooooopssss. Lol
ya solid front endlinks are not a good idea with the rallitek bar, a lot of other mods will be needed to undo the understeer created but that stiff of a front end. I just got brand new Moog endlinks for mine. it feels great with the rear bar and solid endlinks.

[prodriver1]

total spent a lottle over $3,700.00 US. and thats just parts, I have over 150 hours of my time into it as well. if you had the money to waste how much would you pay for it?

[superu]

exhaust vid :grin: http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd4 ... I_0891.mp4 (http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd402/subyguy3/?action=view&current=MVI_0891.mp4)

NICE, throaty, meaty and mellow! Is that just headers, and a muffler? Looks like stock pipe otherwise, or it that upsized little too?

Umm, I guess I should just say, "Nice exhaust note, what is your setup?" ;)

[prodriver1]

exhaust vid :grin: http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd4 ... I_0891.mp4 (http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd402/subyguy3/?action=view&current=MVI_0891.mp4)

NICE, throaty, meaty and mellow! Is that just headers, and a muffler? Looks like stock pipe otherwise, or it that upsized little too?

Umm, I guess I should just say, "Nice exhaust note, what is your setup?" ;)




UEL header, 2.25" piping, spaced 2nd O2 sensor, 2 glasspacks, and a vibrant street power muffler. that is the entirety of the system:)

[prodriver1]

well I'm done till paint and engine swap. total bill including the car $3,780. anyone want an outback for 4 grand? LOL

[DarkPhoenix]

well I'm done till paint and engine swap. total bill including the car $3,780. anyone want an outback for 4 grand? LOL

I'll give ya $50 shipped. :P

Looking good bro. Sounds nice too.

[prodriver1]

well I'm done till paint and engine swap. total bill including the car $3,780. anyone want an outback for 4 grand? LOL

I'll give ya $50 shipped. :P

Looking good bro. Sounds nice too.
:smt005 thanks man.

[prodriver1]

wow an offroad subaru meet would be awesome! I always see subaru meets with tones of WRX's and STi's but no offroadarus, I guess we outback owners have better things to do;) but maybe we could get together once a year around tax season so we can afford to do something drastic like meet in the desert for some serious subaru abuse. I would be driving from the great mixed north so others can do it too. I know there are enough foresters and outbacks to get attention for subaru offroading, maybe we could get media attention and turn this into something real, hey I can dream rite:)

[superu]

wow an offroad subaru meet would be awesome! I always see subaru meets with tones of WRX's and STi's but no offroadarus, I guess we outback owners have better things to do;) but maybe we could get together once a year around tax season so we can afford to do something drastic like meet in the desert for some serious subaru abuse. I would be driving from the great mixed north so others can do it too. I know there are enough foresters and outbacks to get attention for subaru offroading, maybe we could get media attention and turn this into something real, hey I can dream rite:)


LIKE MAYBE HERE IN MOAB!!!!! "Subaru Safari 2012, the end is near so come out to red rock country and enjoy the great open spaces only the west can offer!!"

:smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026 :smt026

check out a couple Subies I spotted here, in my humble town, last week!
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and

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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_vV3XhlpDEVQ/TcwPgXjmOfI/AAAAAAAAR5o/1UHuwG5fkFw/P1020791.JPG

[prodriver1]

^that would be SWEEEEET!^ I'm in:) March 2012 would be perfect! should we start threads here and offroadsubarus.com and maybe some other places?

[superu]

^that would be SWEEEEET!^ I'm in:) March 2012 would be perfect! should we start threads here and offroadsubarus.com and maybe some other places?

YES, make it so!! :smt023 :smt023 :smt026

Be aware there's a rediculous Jeep wee every year, the week before and ending on Easter. So maybe before then. . .

Make an invite thread and I'll copy it some others if you're not a member there

I post on USMB, DI, subaruoutback, subaruforester, AUsubaru, OZFOZ, offroadingsubarus (last 3 are primarily aussie forums), NASTYSAC and SCCA-Utah rally forums.

[prodriver1]

gota be March as thats when I get taxes back, and that is what would make this trip possible for me. My buddy has a toyota truck and we go on trails a lot so a full-on offroad trip would be awesome.

[superu]

gota be March as thats when I get taxes back, and that is what would make this trip possible for me. My buddy has a toyota truck and we go on trails a lot so a full-on offroad trip would be awesome.

I talked about it a couple years ago witha buddy in OR, he talked about making it in 2011, but that's come and gone and it didn't fly.
It'd be awesome the make the Subaru Safari a reality!


Make it so!!

draft your thread invite and I'll copy it around to other places to.

[prodriver1]

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[prodriver1]

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[prodriver1]

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[prodriver1]

gota be March as thats when I get taxes back, and that is what would make this trip possible for me. My buddy has a toyota truck and we go on trails a lot so a full-on offroad trip would be awesome.

I talked about it a couple years ago witha buddy in OR, he talked about making it in 2011, but that's come and gone and it didn't fly.
It'd be awesome the make the Subaru Safari a reality!


Make it so!!

draft your thread invite and I'll copy it around to other places to.
just cant convince the wife it will be in anyway fun for her:(

[superu]

gota be March as thats when I get taxes back, and that is what would make this trip possible for me. My buddy has a toyota truck and we go on trails a lot so a full-on offroad trip would be awesome.

I talked about it a couple years ago witha buddy in OR, he talked about making it in 2011, but that's come and gone and it didn't fly.
It'd be awesome the make the Subaru Safari a reality!


Make it so!!

draft your thread invite and I'll copy it around to other places to.
just cant convince the wife it will be in anyway fun for her:(


teehee,
she can hang out with my not-so-car-lover wife!

AND Moab is an freakin' crazy-cool place....so long as you're in to being outdoors, hiking, mt. biking, rafting, climbing, back country skiing, cross-country skiing, sledding etc. ;)
Emphasize hiking to the lil lady

[grayguy]

^all that sounds like far too much work, I'd much rather stay in my jeep if I went there haha.

[superu]

^all that sounds like far too much work, I'd much rather stay in my jeep if I went there haha.

You and the other 5000+ participants of jeep week! :smt005

:smt002 A suby safari is a fun idea and I'd LOVE to see a contingent of Subys roll through here,
but there's no doubt that if ya really want to roll the trails (beyond moderate), you certainly have the right idea :smt002 :smt026

[superu]

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That's lookin' GOOOD!!

The build came together nicely!

[superu]

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just a little muddn'

let us reflect :smt002
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[prodriver1]

^^ya! poor thing was neglected for too long, but its cool now, she is in loving hands. it may have mud all over but the interior is a nice quiet black leather place to be, clean clean clean inside and all new and fits perf;) its like a car mullet:) party on the outside but all biz on the inside :lol:

[prodriver1]

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That's lookin' GOOOD!!

The build came together nicely!
still not done, still getting forester springs installed, new paint, and the new engine needs to go in. wana help put in the engine:)

[prodriver1]

^all that sounds like far too much work, I'd much rather stay in my jeep if I went there haha.

You and the other 5000+ participants of jeep week! :smt005

:smt002 A suby safari is a fun idea and I'd LOVE to see a contingent of Subys roll through here,
but there's no doubt that if ya really want to roll the trails (beyond moderate), you certainly have the right idea :smt002 :smt026
ya! f jeeps:( I beat jeeps offroad and hondas on road! well that was the plan anyway:)

[superu]

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That's lookin' GOOOD!!

The build came together nicely!
still not done, still getting forester springs installed, new paint, and the new engine needs to go in. wana help put in the engine:)

Hells yeah, drag that rig on down to Moab and we'll swap a block!! :smt026
I've done a tranny now! ;)


:smt023

[prodriver1]

I can fix cars me! :smt030 :smt002

[prodriver1]

so I'm going up more:) forester springs and thinking of putting blocks on to jack it up another inch or three;) :smt023 but then the camber would be to positive, so I was thinking about STi lateral links. they are longer for the STi's longer track rite?? if so I am doing it :grin: I think I will also need a longer steering rack as well?? :smt017 if that doesnt work I'll just use camber plates but that would be too easy :cool:

[prodriver1]

bump for good reply

[mycargoesvroom]

I think you could get away with the forester suspension without any major mods. I can't wait to see it, I've been wanting to do a good lift for a while now.

[prodriver1]

I think you could get away with the forester suspension without any major mods. I can't wait to see it, I've been wanting to do a good lift for a while now.
I am 4-sure putting on the forester springs all I need is the spring perches for the front and I'm golden. what I'm referring to is after that, I am toying with the old hockey puck lift:) or a block of treated wood or a custom drilled aluminium blocks, those type of things. the forester springs will give me an inch or so but of course I want MORE.lol. and the higher I go the more positive camber I will get.

[prodriver1]

well the engine is off to grayguys house to be swapped in this weekend! finally. super Psyched to "feel the power"LOL. but its a more dependable motor so...

[superu]

I'm interested in what you come up with for fixing camber once you get >2" over stock.. I'm thinking about wobbling my upper strut hole and welding a washer to give me more adjustability out of my camber kit. Mostly b/c I don't have access to junkyards closer than 4 hours from me.... and b/c it sounds like a fun mod :D

OR, you could swap in gen 2 forester suspension (struts, springs and tophats.... That lifts an OB more than just gen 1 FOR springs in OB struts....



BUT, when you already have the parts. . . . ;)

Ooh and congrats on your engine rebuild! Was it the HG failure, or something else?

[prodriver1]

I'm interested in what you come up with for fixing camber once you get >2" over stock.. I'm thinking about wobbling my upper strut hole and welding a washer to give me more adjustability out of my camber kit. Mostly b/c I don't have access to junkyards closer than 4 hours from me.... and b/c it sounds like a fun mod :D

OR, you could swap in gen 2 forester suspension (struts, springs and tophats.... That lifts an OB more than just gen 1 FOR springs in OB struts....



BUT, when you already have the parts. . . . ;)

Ooh and congrats on your engine rebuild! Was it the HG failure, or something else?
ya the front tyres rub in extreme situations but daily driving doesn't rub so I'm excited to get the for springs on.
the engine in the car now is fine, I just like my old engine better:) its newer in a rebuild (about 30k) and its got a new timing belt, injectors, neon coil, cleaned intake manifold, new PVC, new fuel filter, lots of new stuff. its a lot faster than the engine in there now, and its from my GT and I loved that car.

[prodriver1]

well the engine is in!:D I'm so happy with the swap. the engine is soo much faster now that the computer knows its there, it took a couple starts but it feels steady and pulls hard all through the revs. it was over heating for a while but it must have just been a bubble in the system cuz its all good after a couple start shutdowns. very happy and I ow it all to grayguy! thanks man! :smt023

[grayguy]

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https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/47af70ee-1.jpg

Glad it started running better. Now I can wait to get the "old" 2.5 from your wagon into my L, hopefully this week.

[prodriver1]

let me know, I'll provide what little help I can :smt006

[superu]

I've heard about the mod, but tell me about the Neon coil. Adventages, disadvantages, etc. How much of the difference you notice in the GT motor would you attribute to the coil, and what performance differences would you attribute to other things like, plugs, wires, cleaned intake, newer injectors etc.... ooh wait, that's the point of all that newer stuff, better performance ;)
But seriously, give me your $.02 on the neon coil bit.

thanx!

[prodriver1]

I've heard about the mod, but tell me about the Neon coil. Adventages, disadvantages, etc. How much of the difference you notice in the GT motor would you attribute to the coil, and what performance differences would you attribute to other things like, plugs, wires, cleaned intake, newer injectors etc.... ooh wait, that's the point of all that newer stuff, better performance ;)
But seriously, give me your $.02 on the neon coil bit.

thanx!
well the neon coil wasn't set up rite so we swapped back to a stock one. it was miss-firing bad. I will double check the firing pattern again and if I had it rite I will scrap the Idea but it was of by 2 cylinders I think so its most likely my fault and I will try again.

[prodriver1]

and I have piston slap:(

[grayguy]

!?!?

[phi11]

damn, I was in town last night!

[prodriver1]

!?!?
thought it was loose header bolts but I checked and they are fine, but listening up by #4 its piston slap I'm pretty sure,

[grayguy]

That doesn't seem possible. Like bad or just when it's cold?

[prodriver1]

That doesn't seem possible. Like bad or just when it's cold?
all the time. it sounds exactly like a leaky exhaust, but I dont have ant leaks. :smt017 :smt017 and this morning it wouldn't get any power till I hit like 5k, it was hesitating all the way up till boom full power. so I pulled over and popped the hood to check connections and then it felt fine, crazy subaru is so confusing, its like it just wanted a little attention :smt017 I gota get you that radiator screw anyway you should listen to it and tell me what you think. also my check engine light turns off randomly now, oh well better than on all the time. oh and did I mention it pull like hell now :smt023 I can have it in 5th at well below 1500rpm and it will keep pulling, the old one would bog down and die in that sitch.

[prodriver1]

checked codes yesterday and its p0325, knock sensor wiring with is a splice job, so that needs to be fixed. glad its an easy fix:) only got one other code and its the O2 sensor with is spaced and theirs no cat so thats fine. wow only 2 codes and one doesn't even matter:) I have the healthiest subaru I have ever owned! :smt023 when I get it fixed I want to race a stock WRX again. anyone up for that?

[prodriver1]

noticed an oil spot in my drive, looked under the car and their is oil driping from between the engine and trans!!! :smt013 Its a brand new engine WTF!! so that stupid little black plastic cover on the back of the engine that is usually metal ( you need to take out the engine to see it), does that need any type of gasket or anything b4 you put it on? I think its the cover to access the bearings?? maybe thats it but IDK this is rubbish!

[superu]

noticed an oil spot in my drive, looked under the car and their is oil driping from between the engine and trans!!! :smt013 Its a brand new engine WTF!! so that stupid little black plastic cover on the back of the engine that is usually metal ( you need to take out the engine to see it), does that need any type of gasket or anything b4 you put it on? I think its the cover to access the bearings?? maybe thats it but IDK this is rubbish!

maybe rear main seal? :smt017

[grayguy]

That's likely too

[prodriver1]

rear main seal is new.

[Huffer]

so that stupid little black plastic cover on the back of the engine that is usually metal ( you need to take out the engine to see it), does that need any type of gasket or anything b4 you put it on? I think its the cover to access the bearings?? maybe thats it but IDK this is rubbish!

That's the rear main oil separator plate - and it has been replaced by a metal plate, with a gasket sealer.

[prodriver1]

so that stupid little black plastic cover on the back of the engine that is usually metal ( you need to take out the engine to see it), does that need any type of gasket or anything b4 you put it on? I think its the cover to access the bearings?? maybe thats it but IDK this is rubbish!

That's the rear main oil separator plate - and it has been replaced by a metal plate, with a gasket sealer.
ya its the first one ive seen with a plastic cover not a metal one. so should i have put on some sort of gasket sealer? i pulled it off to see inside and just screwed it back on. when the engine is cooled down and off it doesnt leak. it only leaks after a hard workout. and the PVC valve and the lines going down from that are really oily, I know thats mildly normal but this is fresh liquidy oil that smells slightly of petrol.

[superu]

... fresh liquidy oil that smells slightly of petrol.

did you just say petrol? That's cool! :smt023

y'aint originally from these parts are ya? ;) :wink:

[grayguy]

No, he is. He's just goofy haha

[prodriver1]

I watch a lot of british telly, and I have seen every episode of top gear and fifth gear like a million times, even the old top gear.

[superu]

I watch a lot of british telly,

:smt023
the wankers who don't are missing out!

[prodriver1]

I watch a lot of british telly,

:smt023
the wankers who don't are missing out!
too rite mate!
Ideal
mighty boosh
snuff box
respectable
how not to live your life
anything with James May
an idiot abroad
Dom Joly's happy hour
FM
Nathan Barley
all my references and jokes are lost on these berks. :smt005

[superu]

I watch a lot of british telly,

:smt023
the wankers who don't are missing out!
all my references and jokes are lost on these berks. :smt005

berks!!!




:smt026 :grin: :smt026

[prodriver1]

just passed 9,000 miles on my $500 car:)

[prodriver1]

just passed 9,000 miles on my $500 car:)

[prodriver1]

going to retry the neon coil pack wiring.

[RS MN]

im comin up to your area sometime soon, can i grab some parts and check out how the OB's doin?

[prodriver1]

im comin up to your area sometime soon, can i grab some parts and check out how the OB's doin?
word, give me a call when you get into town :smt023

[RS MN]

will do! probably wont be for another week or two, but figured i should give you a heads up.

[prodriver1]

starting a new engine build ! :smt023 . maybe supercharged maybe NA cant decide but its going to be a FULL build.

[prodriver1]

cozza (cosworth) makes cylinder heads that are 4k+ ! thats how much I spent on all my mods put together! I dont quite need that much flow. I'll probably just get a spring & retainer kit and do my own p&p, then maybe STi rods, ACL bearings, Manly crank, custom high comp pistons (or not if I supercharge) & deves rings, thats the plan 4 now. very slowly and piece by piece.

[superu]

awesomeness!!

supercharge!! doit

[RS MN]

Man, I thought you were against boost.

[grayguy]

He is anti turbo, not anti boost

[prodriver1]

and pro torque! who ho! :smt023

[RS MN]

He is anti turbo, not anti boost


Ahhhh ok.

[superu]

and pro torque! who ho! :smt023

copy that!!

checkit, my friend frankenmotored (ej25t with EJ20 heads) his 02 WRX rally car, THEN boosted it (ala turbo), so now he's at 200 WHP AND 272 ft/lbs of torque!
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :twisted: :twisted:


but I digress. . . . :smt020

[prodriver1]

anyone do their own paint? I'm just using rattle cans for most of it but other than fixing the rust spots and debadging and wet sanding should I primer it? I will be using spray cans as I said in satin titanium colour so I'm not going for show quality but I want it to last for a good while. the "outback" part will be done in black truck bed liner witch comes with a kit and instructions so I'm good on that part.

[r3v_v3ng3]

Yes, primer it first

[prodriver1]

Yes, primer it first
ok thanks :smt023 , I'll get some gray rattle cans of primer. now this will be my first time spraying anything so ANY advice will be greatly appreciated. I will debadge, tape and paper over the rims/tyres windows and trim, wetsand, clean surface with rubbing alcohol?, primer, dry, then paint, dry, then tape off for the bottom truck bed liner part. if anything is amiss or just plain wrong please let me know. cheers fellas :smt023

[nikolaus.conrad]

Liking your white Outback :smt023

[prodriver1]

Liking your white Outback :smt023
not me:( thats why I'm painting it. black on bottom satin titanium on top just like the Zonda F, offroad Pagani Zonda F :smt005 :smt005 but I'm painting the lightbar STi pink :lol: the interior is getting a splash or 2 of pink as well.

[nikolaus.conrad]

Nice!! Off-road Zonda? So what was that comment you made on my ride about jacking up a Ferrari isn't right? I think you know what I'm getting at. :smt005 :smt016 To be honest, I'm not a fan of white and tan, I'm glad you're painting it :smt023 I can't wait to see how it looks!

[prodriver1]

Nice!! Off-road Zonda? So what was that comment you made on my ride about jacking up a Ferrari isn't right? I think you know what I'm getting at. :smt005 :smt016 To be honest, I'm not a fan of white and tan, I'm glad you're painting it :smt023 I can't wait to see how it looks!
HAHA you got me :smt023 , no its just the paint scheme, my car is very non-performance :lol:

[nikolaus.conrad]

Right, but you'll be going more places than a Ferrari or a Zonda :grin:

[StatGSR]

My advise for painting would be to avoid bomb cans and look into a single stage auto paint. Not sure if you own a compressor, but even a compressor of any size can lead to paint looking way better than most bomb can jobs. not to mention bomb cans can get pretty expensive once you buy enough to complete a whole car... if you havn't already bought a boat load of bomb cans i can point you in a couple directions if your interested.

[prodriver1]

My advise for painting would be to avoid bomb cans and look into a single stage auto paint. Not sure if you own a compressor, but even a compressor of any size can lead to paint looking way better than most bomb can jobs. not to mention bomb cans can get pretty expensive once you buy enough to complete a whole car... if you havn't already bought a boat load of bomb cans i can point you in a couple directions if your interested.
I used to have an old sport compact car mag with a diy flat black STi done in a garage with a case of rattle cans, its my inspiration. I wonder if it would be more cost effective to get vinyl?

[prodriver1]

My advise for painting would be to avoid bomb cans and look into a single stage auto paint. Not sure if you own a compressor, but even a compressor of any size can lead to paint looking way better than most bomb can jobs. not to mention bomb cans can get pretty expensive once you buy enough to complete a whole car... if you havn't already bought a boat load of bomb cans i can point you in a couple directions if your interested.
I only have a 125psi tiny little tank and I kicked it down the stairs once so i'd need a new compressor and a sprayer. if you got the LD on a good deal I'm grateful for that.

[grayguy]

No, vinyl is very expensive. You have to be pretty good with a bomb can to get anything worth while. I can lay down a mean bomb can paint job, but that being said, Stat is absolutely correct, spraying is way better.

Also, you should realize that flat paint jobs are the hardest, most unforgiving paint jobs you can do.

[Dead91silvia]

To get a car wrapped in vinyl is about $2000. I would also say stay away from spray cans. I can tell a car that has been caned, as a bodyman, and they look like crap.

You could get away with doing the lower half with a can, but I would take the top half to get done at a shop. The lower would not be as noticeable...

[Okin DaVanh]

http://www.harborfreight.com/ Is your friend, when it comes to getting a reasonably priced compressor and/or HVLP spray gun....

[prodriver1]

No, vinyl is very expensive. You have to be pretty good with a bomb can to get anything worth while. I can lay down a mean bomb can paint job, but that being said, Stat is absolutely correct, spraying is way better.

Also, you should realize that flat paint jobs are the hardest, most unforgiving paint jobs you can do.
I have done flat black b4 on the gt and practiced first on some tin I had did a pretty good job, and as I said I dont want a show quality finish its going to get chipped, dented, scratched, and gouged offroading anyway. but it is going to be a "satin" finish with yes is the hardest paint to lay down, the care instructions for the new M3 with the satin gray is insane! but looking at guns online I find gravity feed (better ive heard) for less than $20 and I need a bigger compressor anyway as buisiness is getting big (I fix subarus, toyotas, and VW, currently working on a 95' jette) so thats a good buy for me as well. I'm looking for a good used compressor if you know of any for sale. we have a good auto paint suply shop here in D-town so I'll be able to order an exact replica of the pegani zonda f satin Ti, and factory STi pink for the little details I'm thinking of, like a "GTi" grill ring, pink light bar, and STi pink winter rims.

[prodriver1]

:smt023
http://www.harborfreight.com/ Is your friend, when it comes to getting a reasonably priced compressor and/or HVLP spray gun.... :smt023

[prodriver1]

To get a car wrapped in vinyl is about $2000. I would also say stay away from spray cans. I can tell a car that has been caned, as a bodyman, and they look like crap.

You could get away with doing the lower half with a can, but I would take the top half to get done at a shop. The lower would not be as noticeable...
the vinyl thing would be done by me and a buddy so materials ie vinyl and razors would be the only cost. its more a menacing offroad nightmare to scare local children so it doesnt need to look that good.

[phi11]

Vinyl isn't expensive, it's the labor.

[superu]

anyone do their own paint? I'm just using rattle cans for most of it but other than fixing the rust spots and debadging and wet sanding should I primer it? I will be using spray cans as I said in satin titanium colour so I'm not going for show quality but I want it to last for a good while. the "outback" part will be done in black truck bed liner witch comes with a kit and instructions so I'm good on that part.

yeah, but more like my buddy with the compressor, spray gun and body-shop/painting experience did it. we went the cheap route though, when shoppong for read automotive paint (with hardener, etc etc.). we just used a red scotch pad to scuff the clear coat, taped off the trim and sprayed a rust-X (like rustoleum) satin black, 4 coats. To get my 2-tone.
The spoiler is already oxidizing and fading (from southern Utah desert sun) in a year and a quarter, but it ain't no thing. I think rubbing alcohol will bring the finish back, or we could just squirt it again. The body is fine, since it's down low and not in such blazing sun as the spoiler...

I'd (after talking with my buddy who knows a thing or two about paint) avoid rattle cans. They're cheap and just that, not nearly as durable as a real spray job... Especially the "clear coat" spray can... avoid avoid.

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[prodriver1]

Vinyl isn't expensive, it's the labor.
thats what I was thinking, I'll do some research on the colour I want and how much I'll need, if its less than a spray gun and paint, or less than a couple cases of cans I'll do it 4 sure.

[StatGSR]

Prodriver, not sure if you ever saw my thread, or for that matter my legacy since i painted it, but even with how much half assing i did, it still came out much better and i think has held up much better than the average bomb can job..
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7014 (http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7014)

that was all done with a borrowed HF HVLP gun, a way too small 2 gallon compressor (for painting with a HVLP you want volume, pressure only needs to be about 40psi), and topside boat paint... used maybe $100 worth of paint, primer, and thinner to complete it. my next go around with my integra this year i will end up using a cheapish single stage auto paint, mostly because the color selection for boat paint is pretty crappy.

[r3v_v3ng3]

buy a cheap LVLP gun on ebay on 1.4 tip that should do the job. Less air pressure and overspray. Practice on the gun first on the technique to spray it.

[superu]

Prodriver, not sure if you ever saw my thread,...
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7014 (http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7014)


I dig the 'legacy' in the grille, that's sweet! might copy that. I'm going to pull it from the trunk, so might as well redeploy it on the grille instead of the parts box in the shed :smt026
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/11/DSC01967-1.jpg

nice work on the paint too BTW :wink:

[prodriver1]

Clutch; I want a bit more torque handling, thinking of upgrading to STi or WRX clutch if they will fit/ are better than stock. any recommendations? some times when pulling larger vehicles (trucks) out of the ditch the clutch will slip even though its in pretty good condition.

Throw out bearing; is stock OEM the way to go? I want to get stainless braided line to replace the stock crapy inability to dump the clutch, not that I do this, just want a much firmer engagement.

rear main seal; might as well if I'm gona be back there, whats the best?

[StatGSR]

Sti and WRX clutches wont work with your current transmission setup, anything that is out there for a 2.5rs will work just fine though. My personal recommendation would be a 1KS or 2KS from Action Clutch because kevlar disks are BA and i have on in my Teg. http://www.actionclutch.com/index.php?r ... 41_235_239 (http://www.actionclutch.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=41_235_239)

oem is fine, but i would probably just use the one that will come with whatever clutch kit you buy, Reason can probably get you the SS clutch line from Technafit you mentioned.

rear main seal, just go oem

[Huffer]

You could easily go: Exedy stage 2 + TSK 5mt snout kit - it's a bigger oversized T/O bearing with a titanium snout cover that protects the trans snout.
Stainless clutch line is easy to do, is it worth it? Maybe.
Rear main seal - go oem.

4Zero1motorsports can get you the clutch items.

[prodriver1]

You could easily go: Exedy stage 2 + TSK 5mt snout kit - it's a bigger oversized T/O bearing with a titanium snout cover that protects the trans snout.
Stainless clutch line is easy to do, is it worth it? Maybe.
Rear main seal - go oem.

4Zero1motorsports can get you the clutch items.
I like this larger T/O bearing and snout cover kit, think if its reasonably priced (not too much more than stock$) I'll get it.

[prodriver1]

Sti and WRX clutches wont work with your current transmission setup, anything that is out there for a 2.5rs will work just fine though. My personal recommendation would be a 1KS or 2KS from Action Clutch because kevlar disks are BA and i have on in my Teg. http://www.actionclutch.com/index.php?r ... 41_235_239 (http://www.actionclutch.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=41_235_239)

oem is fine, but i would probably just use the one that will come with whatever clutch kit you buy, Reason can probably get you the SS clutch line from Technafit you mentioned.

rear main seal, just go oem
so if I get a better clutch and pressure plate will I need a better CMC? a better diff and trans (GC STi if I can find or else 2.5rs) better clutch holding and a good stock 2.5 is a lot more stress than the outback has ever handled, I want to cover all the bases b4 its on the road with this setup.

[StatGSR]

so if I get a better clutch and pressure plate will I need a better CMC? a better diff and trans (GC STi if I can find or else 2.5rs) better clutch holding and a good stock 2.5 is a lot more stress than the outback has ever handled, I want to cover all the bases b4 its on the road with this setup.

No, you shouldn't have to do anything with your CMC so long as it works fine now
No, actually if you ended up with a GC Sti tranny you would need a new clutch/pressure plate/ flywheel all together
A tougher clutch will increase the amount of torque that the clutch can hold, so yes more stress can be transmitted to the rest of the drivetrain because the clutch WON'T slip. this does not mean your transmission will just give up on life all together if you still drive it appropriately.

as for my recommendation about the Action clutch, they seam to be marketing a single clutch for Legacys, 2.5rs, and WRXs which is impossible since NA subarus don't use the same style of clutch as the turbo subarus, i have sent a question in for clarification from them until i hear back from them i would not recommend them.

[prodriver1]

just ordered the TSK kit from PDM, comes with an oversized T/O with toyota bearings and toyota clips to replace the subaru ones. I also have the parts for a DIY oil separator and will be doing that.

[Reason]

Yay, and I returned your PM.

[prodriver1]

ya good prices and all :smt023 thanks :smt007

[prodriver1]

and I told the PDM guy I got the recomend from SLi, he said ya the site has done well bringing him business :smt023

[prodriver1]

just found a NEW rear wiper assembly :smt023 I also found a rear hatch bar bull bar thingy :smt023 yay upgrades!

[prodriver1]

test drove another outback like mine only green, guy wanted $2800 for rusted, dented, both bumpers busted beyond repair, broken windshield, bad trans, bad engine with multiple codes, blowing exhaust, interior a wreck with busted switches and trim all over, mismatched tyres on scratched and oxidized rims, ripped seats..... I test drove it and then offered him a ride in mine, then told him I payed $500 for it and I'd give him $800 for his :lol: .

[prodriver1]

put lights on the front light bar, and found a hatch bar at the junk yard :smt023 installed that and it looks sweet! puting it on was a bit of a faff with my giant hands but 800 scratches later its on. :smt023 going to the fabric store (my gran will be pissed I went w/o her XD) to pick out / order gray and black alcantara for the dash and door cards, still cant deside what to do for the headliner... toss up between a pink tartan style pattern or the old VW GTi gray recaro seat cloth, you know the gray with black "RECARO" printed all down the middle. I want to keep in mind the outside of the car will be more sinister than the F117 sb, so a cheeky splash of colour inside is what I want.

[prodriver1]

anyone have pics/ ideas about headliner options? I need more inspiration.

[prodriver1]

just pulled the rear springs from a forester today, also got cross drilled and slotted front rotors off the same car (for sale :smt023 ), getting the springs put on (finally) yay lift:) .

[prodriver1]

yep

[LGT Kirby]

yep

Yup. (cracks open a beer)

MOAR PICS.

[prodriver1]

no more imageshack. I dont like the idea of them having unlimited access to my computer...

[prodriver1]

my new V1 detected a rozza 7 blocks b4 I saw him and it was only set at 50% sensitivity. very satisfied :smt023

[prodriver1]

also getting mud flaps I decided. :smt023

[prodriver1]

so I have KYB GR-2's on now with the stock outback springs, I have finished acquiring the forester springs and have ordered front spring perches (not the mount or "top hat") my question is should I keep my one year old KYB's or get a fresh set meant for a forester? reason I ask is, will the taller springs render the outback shocks useless i.e. will it be all soft. are there better shock choices for a forester? what are the weight differences in outback ( my car sits at 3280lb w/o driver)vs forester? is the 1999 forester heavier than my 98' outback? its very stiff as it is, but I don't want to loose that.

[prodriver1]

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[prodriver1]

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[superu]

so I have KYB GR-2's on now with the stock outback springs, I have finished acquiring the forester springs and have ordered front spring perches (not the mount or "top hat") my question is should I keep my one year old KYB's or get a fresh set meant for a forester? reason I ask is, will the taller springs render the outback shocks useless i.e. will it be all soft. are there better shock choices for a forester? what are the weight differences in outback ( my car sits at 3280lb w/o driver)vs forester? is the 1999 forester heavier than my 98' outback? its very stiff as it is, but I don't want to loose that.


FWIW, When I had an SPEC stage II, I only got 55K out of it behind a NA EJ22 with milder off roading than I do now (although I have better gearing now so there's a confounding variable ;) I did some pulling folks out of the snow, but like 80+% city and 10ish% highway on that SPEC...
Yes, race clutches are stronger and hold more torque (as in my case, nearly 2X more than the engine could put out) than OEM, and the engine will stall before the clutch slips, BUT it is also a shorter life clutch.....

As for springs and shocks...

I'd say stick with your newish GR2 struts... Forester struts have a lower bottom perch and therefore won't allow as tall of tire as OB struts do. OBs are heavier than FOR and I think the FOR shock is longer to account for the taller spring. That said, if you stuff a taller spring in a shorter strut (e.g. FOR spring in OB strut), the spring will be under a touch more tension than when mounted in a FOR strut (thus lift).
In fact a gen 2 OB spring will lit a gen 1 OB a touch (the spring has a 1/4 turn more spring), enough of a difference for the extra weight from gen 1 to gen 2.

So there are 2 arguments here:

A: the FOR spring is rated for a lighter rig, so it'll be saggier in a heavier car, or
B: if FOR spring is compressed into a shorter (OB) strut, it'll be under more tension, thus providing more dampening force...

BUT, FOR (gen 1) and OB (gen 1 and 2 H-4) and the SVX spring gauge (coil thickness) are all 19mm. They get thicker in gen 2 H-6 and bajas. Thus, same steel thickness but they differ in number of coils as per weight of vehicle or ride characteristics (like FOR has a stiffer ride than OB). SOOOO, a FOR strut might similarly provide a stiffer ride (I say might as I can't say personally...I know folks here and there have done FOR strut lifts on LEG, but i haven't read suspension stiffness reports), but they will also not allow as tall of a tire as an OB strut will allow. BUT, if you're not looking for a 27-28 inch tire, a FOR strut would probly be fine.
BUUUT, if they're all the same thickness and differ in number of coils, that's the difference in ability. I can't say for sure, but I assume same thickness gives same rate (same temper in the steel, etc), but more coils = more load capacity.

Dammit Jim, I'm a biologist not a metallurgical engineer ;)

Whatever, i know that a FOR spring will lift up a gen 1 OB a touch. I like them in the back of my OB-lifted LEG, and the SVX spings in front lift more than FOR springs AND hold my heavy bumper just fine.


I think it's all a bit stiffer than stock, and probably stiffer than when on OB springs... but it's tough to say for sure without a side by side comparison.


:smt026 I hope this is helpful in some way :) :smt026

[Kansei]

information overload.......

[superu]

information overload.......

:smt010

take it in pieces. . .

[prodriver1]

the noise is exactly like rubbing 2 quarters together in your fingers, and its coming from the driver side wheel area, i was thinking it was the wheel bearing but i just got that replaced like 8 months ago at a very high end repair shop and i pulled the knuckle off and did my best to grease the bearing but it still makes noise:( how could it have gone bad so quickly? the bearing on the other side is the original one and its quiet as a mouse. when i listen to other bad bearing noises they sound nothing like this, more of a woom woom woom, not a metallic screeching, sometimes when i turn hardish its quiet then goes back to screeching, could this be something else? i have looked for other culprits like the dust plate scraping on the rotor and stuff but nothing looks out of place. wheel bearing?

[prodriver1]

put my bid down on a flood damaged 06' STi ! :smt023 man i hope i get it!

[lord flashheart]

^Our thoughts and prayers are with you on that

[prodriver1]

^Our thoughts and prayers are with you on that
ya my mind is racing on the thought of an outback "STi" :smt026

[98legwag]

That would be sweet. Hope you get it.

[nikolaus.conrad]

^Our thoughts and prayers are with you on that
ya my mind is racing on the thought of an outback "STi" :smt026
You're going to need to lower your car if you do an STi swap :wink:

[prodriver1]

[quote="lord flashheart":li5dqlin]^Our thoughts and prayers are with you on that
ya my mind is racing on the thought of an outback "STi" :smt026
You're going to need to lower your car if you do an STi swap :wink:[/quote:li5dqlin]
NO! as a matter of fact its getting taller soon;) i just want the trans, diff, brembos, hubs, rims, steering rack, links, A-arms, brake & clutch masters, and anything else that will fit under my car, and the steering wheel. the seats and the rest of the int will go up for sale as will the engine, its just worth too much to keep, and i dont really like turbos, maybe high comp pistons or a supercharger kit would get me to keep it.

[prodriver1]

no parts car for me:( top bid was over 4k more than mine:(

[nikolaus.conrad]

Ouch! I'm sorry for your loss =(

[prodriver1]

Ouch! I'm sorry for your loss =(
its ok, it would have been kindof sad to part it up anyway, it was just interior flood damage, it ran and their was no body damage.

[prodriver1]

so the outback wouldent start at the g-store today, left it for a couple min and it fired rite up??? it wasnt getting fuel, the pump made noise and it spuddered a couple attempts but nothing, eventually the fuel in the lines used up and no spudder at all just starter cranking, but as i said i left it for a couple mins and it fired rite up the first time as per usual, its throwing the classic O2 codes as i dont have a cat, but also getting a p0440 evap code, i have a home made oil separator but have been using it for 5k+ and no probs so i dont think its that, and it was definitely a fuel problem, any thoughts? thanks...

[nikolaus.conrad]

Keep an eye on your crank position sensor, that friggen thing gave me Hell for the first 2 months I had my BD. The car would start fine when cold but when it warmed up it wouldn't start again, without great difficulty.

[prodriver1]

Keep an eye on your crank position sensor, that friggen thing gave me Hell for the first 2 months I had my BD. The car would start fine when cold but when it warmed up it wouldn't start again, without great difficulty.
i replaced that and the temp sensor like 2 months ago, and like i said it half started or sputtered the first 8 or so times i tried to start it, then after the fuel in the rails ran out and their was just starter noise. so im about 99% sure its a fuel problem, clogged lines, clogged filter, something along those lines.

[4Zero1Motorsports]

Fuel senders (both) or fuel pump... if you are going in there to replace either or you should just do it all one shot.